Results 1 to 10 of 1188

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Nobuyuki_Sanada's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    103
    Character
    A'lamahni Naweh
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You are strawmanning again

    None of us want 1-2-3’s on healers we basically want what SCH was in HW, it was more complex on the DPS front than current healers but also still spent war more time healing than you do now, in 3.0 you had 2 functional mitigations and one of them was succor, we all want more choice and punishment with our heals

    Shouldn’t you know that considering you said you read all pages of this thread before commenting
    I'm not strawmanning, I'm being logical. People are asking that they not have to hit 1 button over and over to do damage because it is boring. Either you add new gcd damage skills, probably not more than 2 because they wont introduce that many new skills period. So either your spamming 1 skill and mixing in a couple more buttons rarely or you are 1-2-3 your way to victory. Since the main complaint has been boredom, one would assume you want the 1-2-3. Adding dots or oGCDs doesn't fix the boredom issue, and to be fair neither does 1-2-3
    (1)

  2. #2
    Player
    Aravell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    2,043
    Character
    J'thaldi Rhid
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    I'm not strawmanning, I'm being logical. People are asking that they not have to hit 1 button over and over to do damage because it is boring. Either you add new gcd damage skills, probably not more than 2 because they wont introduce that many new skills period. So either your spamming 1 skill and mixing in a couple more buttons rarely or you are 1-2-3 your way to victory. Since the main complaint has been boredom, one would assume you want the 1-2-3. Adding dots or oGCDs doesn't fix the boredom issue, and to be fair neither does 1-2-3
    That is in no way a logical assumption, there is a thread in the healer subforums about healer change suggestions and not one of them mentions a 1-2-3 combo as something we'd like to see.

    You very obviously haven't done any research at all into what the community wants if you think we can be split into 2 camps of "2 DoTs" and "1-2-3 combo".

    EDIT: Also, I'm still waiting for someone to lay out this miraculous type of design that can keep the veterans fully engaged with only healing across all content while also not massively overwhelming the weaker/newer healers. I'd be very interested to see it.
    (4)
    Last edited by Aravell; 01-25-2024 at 11:57 AM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Shadowflare - Ward Miasma II, Plot Broil IV
    Posts
    4,025
    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    […]EDIT: Also, I'm still waiting for someone to lay out this miraculous type of design that can keep the veterans fully engaged with only healing across all content while also not massively overwhelming the weaker/newer healers. I'd be very interested to see it.
    The rotation is 4 0 4. Rinse and repeat. Error 404 not found.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fellgon View Post
    It seems that "you have no idea what you talking about" is the jack of all trades for arguments around here.

    just saying just saying!
    It’s a valid concern.

    The reason is simple: inexperienced will never understand the high ends because they either lack the experience or insight beyond ‘feelycraft’. But veterans on the other hand could understand on both ends because each of them was once an ‘inexperienced’ too at some point in their progression.

    Do your research, experience the role in differing content(s), and maybe get better. Or not, because I don’t pay your sub.
    (8)

  4. #4
    Player
    Niroken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    411
    Character
    Nanaki Naki
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    EDIT: Also, I'm still waiting for someone to lay out this miraculous type of design that can keep the veterans fully engaged with only healing across all content while also not massively overwhelming the weaker/newer healers. I'd be very interested to see it.
    Any character that has over 100 hours of healing are now forced to strip naked on all content that is level 1-89 as to make sure healers are no longer associated with casting gear. All 50-80 dungeons now have an uncleansable poison, electrocution, burn, sludge, frostbite, dropsy, bleed or windburn debuff (depending on the environment) in addition to the boss having a chance to add doom to their auto-attacks that is cleansed by having the target fully healed. Also the party receives the Reduced Immunity debuff if the healer casts two damaging attacks in a row, punishing the healer for not playing the approved way while making it acceptable in solo content.

    Too easy.
    (1)