All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

[Erzaa]

I don't like doomer posts either, but I don't want to leave the discussion to people who want exploratory zones to disappear, or who think we shouldn't lock rewards like mounts behind Savages. These people are actively trying to ruin the gameplay part of this game by uncritically consuming whatever is served to them and then defending it by saying that this game isn't for you anymore, or that you should patch log and then unsub to play another game.

Who's saying that? If SE added another exploratory zone, I'd do it. I'd still find it a drag after the initial luster wears, but I'd shut up and do it.

And yes, high-end raiders deserve rewards too, and since I don't do that stuff, I won't get that reward. Such is life.

My point is that people who enjoy exploratory zones, didn't get one this expansion and are claiming they got less content, which is untrue.

Should I be making posts about how Shadowbringers needs more content because there's no Deep Dungeon, or Hildy, or Allied Quests for the Tribes, which I enjoy?

[Volgia]

Who's saying that?

Am I being gaslit.

Should I be making posts about how Shadowbringers needs more content because there's no Deep Dungeon, or Hildy, or Allied Quests for the Tribes, which I enjoy?

Complaining about ShB now is a moot point considering you got all of this in Endwalker, but if we were in ShB times yes you would have been entitled to complain about them not adding content you'd be expecting to be there. I wasn't in these forums when ShB came out so I can't say if people complained about Hild or Deep Dungeons, but yes you should have.

[Erzaa]

Am I being gaslit.

No, I'm serious, who said exploratory zones should never exist again, or that savages shouldn't have rewards? I've never seen anyone say that.

Most posts are about Endwalker being devoid of content, because one exploratory zone where you have to grind for three months doesn't exist, saying the new stuff like Variant Dungeons, Island Sancturary, and Deep Dungeon, and Allied Tribes returning doesn't count. Or complaints about how easy everything is, when it's about the same for me, I die a few times and then it's easy, same as any other content.

I've also seen some complaints I can understand, like the exploratory zones are meant for midcore people who want some challenge but not a super difficult one. Which you'll still get, albeit to a lesser extent.

I haven't seen anyone say Savage needs to be removed from the game, or exploratory content shouldn't be in the game.

Complaining about ShB now is a moot point considering you got all of this in Endwalker, but if we were in ShB times yes you would have been entitled to complain about them not adding content you'd be expecting to be there. I wasn't in these forums when ShB came out so I can't say if people complained about Hild or Deep Dungeons, but yes you should have.

Complaining about all this is a moot point, since Endwalker is now over and we're in the downtime waiting for Dawntrail and they've said I believe a new exploratory zone is coming?