All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

[Mostly_Raxus]

You pay for the game, but aren't happy with what you're provided, you take your money elsewhere. I'm not being sarcastic or "just quit the game...", more like, if truly enough people aren't happy with the state of the game and took their money elsewhere, SE would notice and make changes.

I feel, most people who complain on the forums that the game is in a terrible state but refuse to unsub, are worried, because deep down, they know that most people really wouldn't follow. It wouldn't be a WoW Exodus and the game would be just fine without them, and most people, even with a few pet peeves here and there, are happy with the game.

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

[Erzaa]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

Hahahaha. Funny you should mention that, considering the forums are mostly an echo chamber of negativity, game is dying, game is terrible, game is awful.... Oh, the irony.

And no, you can have discussions, that's what the forums are for afterall. But discussions only happen between a few people with differing opinions, in between tens of posts of blanket statements.

And yes, if the changes you so desperately want aren't being made after you've asked for them hundred or thousands of times, then you take a hard stance and take your money elsewhere. If enough people do it, those changes will be forced, but will enough people do it?

[sindriiisgaming]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

[Merrigan]

i know, its almost like these ingrates think they pay for the game, and monthly at that LOL what fools, they haven't given money since before ARR launched so why should square be responsible providing meaningful contents thats carries in to every sub cycle..

and how dare consumers ask a triple A game company to keep the in game models up to date with simple rigging and texture pack updates.. its not like modders do it for free already with little effort..

thank goodness we have developers working so hard by taking entire patch cycles off paid to also get paid working on ff16 as well, otherwise the game would of crashed without their constant vigil...

*Cough Cough* excuse me, i seem to be choking on sarcasm..

You pay for a lot of things. Does that mean you have the right to claim absolutely anything and everything?

No. Companies offer you a service - and while you're entitled to ask for a minimum of effort, obviously, but that's currently provided on FFXIV - it doesn't give you the right to demand absolutely anything and everything. As it happens, there are plenty of requests on the forums.

Hands. Hats. Bozja. Job mechanics. The game's overall difficulty. The pictomancer. Instances. The viper. Storyline. A new cast of Scions. Graphics. The list goes on.

NOT EVERYTHING can be done, that's a simple fact - and the fact that SE is a big company doesn't change that. Hence what I said above.

Thank you, though: your message is a pretty good illustration of what I wanted to convey, since you assume that hands are extremely important (hyperfixation on an element that is, objectivly, only marginal... And you chocking on it won't change anything) and that you underestimate the work required (you don't realize the effort that goes into mods. It's a real problem in the game industry btw, and some of them should get pay for their work. Bethesda, I'm looking at you).

[Mostly_Raxus]

Thank you, though: your message is a pretty good illustration of what I wanted to convey, since you assume that hands are extremely important (hyperfixation on an element that is, objectivly, only marginal... And you chocking on it won't change anything)

typical straw man, i could care less about the hands, or graphic update at all, new texture packs are easy as heck to implement, and are just an excuse you will see a DT launch as to why they didn't get around to something else.

my entire point went in one ear and out the other, and you just heard what you wanted to hear so you could continue talking the point you wanted to impose on us. based on your own prejudice not based on the facts expressed here in the thread.

you need us to be a certain way so you can validate your views on disregarding our opinions. so you just hear and see what you need to justify your ways.

[GoatOfWar]

It's a liveservice game with no long term content.
It's an mmo where people don't need to play together.
It's an rpg without rpg elements.
It uses a class based system but makes them all the same.
It provides some challenges but fails to deliver on rewards to incentivise anyone to do them.

XIV is just not a good game.
I honestly could go on for hours.
You can farm mounts but have nowhere to show them off.
You can farm better gear but it's only useful in the content you got it from.
You can get housing items but the housing system is terrible so most players don't even have one.

Nothing in this game matters or makes a difference.

[Metalface_Villain]

It's a liveservice game with no long term content.
It's an mmo where people don't need to play together.
It's an rpg without rpg elements.
It uses a class based system but makes them all the same.
It provides some challenges but fails to deliver on rewards to incentivise anyone to do them.

XIV is just not a good game.
I honestly could go on for hours.
You can farm mounts but have nowhere to show them off.
You can farm better gear but it's only useful in the content you got it from.
You can get housing items but the housing system is terrible so most players don't even have one.

Nothing in this game matters or makes a difference.

sadly all this is extremely true and sums up some of the biggest problems ff14 has.

[Reap00]

sadly all this is extremely true and sums up some of the biggest problems ff14 has.

If that quote is as true as you claim why do you play the game? Why does that person play the game? I have been playing since 1.0 and like the op find things to do and enjoy in ffxiv every single day. If you are unhappy do something you enjoy. Stop spending your entire existence incessantly complaining about things you cannot change in life. You may actually find something you enjoy.

[strawberrycake]

If that quote is as true as you claim why do you play the game? Why does that person play the game. I have been playing since 1.0 and like the op find things to do and enjoy in ffxiv every single day. If you are unhappy do something you enjoy. Stop spending your entire existence incessantly complaining about things you cannot change in life. You may actually find something you enjoy.

We're you the same person who literally sat here and said the Idea of this game changing actually scared you, I could have sworn that was the case?

[Metalface_Villain]

If that quote is as true as you claim why do you play the game? Why does that person play the game? I have been playing since 1.0 and like the op find things to do and enjoy in ffxiv every single day. If you are unhappy do something you enjoy. Stop spending your entire existence incessantly complaining about things you cannot change in life. You may actually find something you enjoy.

that's a bad argument, people not leaving doesn't make those statements untrue. ff14 has many flaws but that doesn't mean that it also doesn't have good things, people can for 1 like those things and stick with the game for that, that doesn't make their complaints for the other stuff invalid. people also keep playing for the same reason people did with wow, because they invested a lot of time in this game for so long and have an emotional tie. i personally came with the wow exodus and because wow was so bad at that time and because ff14 was still new i had a lot of things to do and didn't feel the flaws, now i have nothing to do and this is actually my last patch. the main reason i played for all these patches tbh in ew was because of ocd "forcing" to complete all the relics but after seeing how they all look the same and not that good (in my eyes) i won't bother even with that. so i guess you're wrong either way xD