All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

[sindriiisgaming]

Man u ppl really can't handle this game being critiscized

[Erzaa]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

Hahahaha. Funny you should mention that, considering the forums are mostly an echo chamber of negativity, game is dying, game is terrible, game is awful.... Oh, the irony.

And no, you can have discussions, that's what the forums are for afterall. But discussions only happen between a few people with differing opinions, in between tens of posts of blanket statements.

And yes, if the changes you so desperately want aren't being made after you've asked for them hundred or thousands of times, then you take a hard stance and take your money elsewhere. If enough people do it, those changes will be forced, but will enough people do it?

[sindriiisgaming]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

[Merrigan]

i know, its almost like these ingrates think they pay for the game, and monthly at that LOL what fools, they haven't given money since before ARR launched so why should square be responsible providing meaningful contents thats carries in to every sub cycle..

and how dare consumers ask a triple A game company to keep the in game models up to date with simple rigging and texture pack updates.. its not like modders do it for free already with little effort..

thank goodness we have developers working so hard by taking entire patch cycles off paid to also get paid working on ff16 as well, otherwise the game would of crashed without their constant vigil...

*Cough Cough* excuse me, i seem to be choking on sarcasm..

You pay for a lot of things. Does that mean you have the right to claim absolutely anything and everything?

No. Companies offer you a service - and while you're entitled to ask for a minimum of effort, obviously, but that's currently provided on FFXIV - it doesn't give you the right to demand absolutely anything and everything. As it happens, there are plenty of requests on the forums.

Hands. Hats. Bozja. Job mechanics. The game's overall difficulty. The pictomancer. Instances. The viper. Storyline. A new cast of Scions. Graphics. The list goes on.

NOT EVERYTHING can be done, that's a simple fact - and the fact that SE is a big company doesn't change that. Hence what I said above.

Thank you, though: your message is a pretty good illustration of what I wanted to convey, since you assume that hands are extremely important (hyperfixation on an element that is, objectivly, only marginal... And you chocking on it won't change anything) and that you underestimate the work required (you don't realize the effort that goes into mods. It's a real problem in the game industry btw, and some of them should get pay for their work. Bethesda, I'm looking at you).

[Erzaa]

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

Excuse you? I don't do savage or extremes or ultimates or any of that, because I've no interest in it. And I login every single day, I play solo, I play duo, I play trio, I join roulettes. As long as it's not high end raiding content, I've done it. Don't believe me? Go check my Lodestone profile. Don't speak as if you know me. I've been on almost every single day on the game for the last 4,5 years mister.

[Merrigan]

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

I play 4-5 days a week, done all Ex and savages even if that's not my main occupation at the moment. Am I autorized to speak ?

Thank you, you're too kind.

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
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A lot. It's very rare for me to leave a negative review online, the only exception being hygiene, or really rude behaviour. Actually, I might have done it... once, in all my life. And the restaurant was a disaster. On the other hand, I often tell when it was really good, or the service was on point, or when the whole experience was pleasant.

(Edit - daily quota, new success obtained !)

[Mostly_Raxus]

Hahahaha. Funny you should mention that, considering the forums are mostly an echo chamber of negativity, game is dying, game is terrible, game is awful.... Oh, the irony.

And no, you can have discussions, that's what the forums are for afterall. But discussions only happen between a few people with differing opinions, in between tens of posts of blanket statements.

And yes, if the changes you so desperately want aren't being made after you've asked for them hundred or thousands of times, then you take a hard stance and take your money elsewhere. If enough people do it, those changes will be forced, but will enough people do it?

or the game studio sees a lack of profit and decides its not worth the hassle for the main team, the game gets handed to a cheaper studio, put on the cloud and goes in to maintenance mode with 6+ months between every patch, and basically left to die wile it milks its whales for all it can get until it releases next product, all while the people working on the game start getting re directed to newer titles and their focus becomes less and less on the game untill the director starts focusing on other main line games instead.... just for instance...

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
the game LITERALLY tells us to come here with our problems and complaints, the forums are not for you pat the devs on the back for successfully receiving your payment..
this is the MEDIUM at witch the PLAYER-BASE is meant to CONTACT the DEV team.
maybe think about that before you critize people for doing that very thing.

plenty of people do take their money elsewhere, you mentioned the wow exodus, kinda funny considering that the servers seem almost dead since those days, guess there was a FFXIV exodus, but its ok you still have your alt and RP cafe.

[sindriiisgaming]

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I am a consumer. It is my right to complain when a product i pay for or have paid for no longer satisfys me or delivers on its original promises, people can like this or not, but fundimentally this is my right, and telling me to just *unsub silently* is absolutley ludicrous. that should be my personal choice to ubsub with or without saying anything. i am of the belief that if i dont say what i dont like about the game, that i can never expect it to improve, because the developers will NEVER know what i didnt like. i am seeing so many people just trying and trying and getting bodied in the replies, to tell us consumers our opinions dont matter or that we should stop posting here, as if these forums are monopolized by the pro yoshiP maffia or something, the simple reality is, if you dont agree, just say it and then go away. but telling people to quit.. imagine im on the outside of ffxiv looking at joining, and i see complaints to the game about its obscene content droughts, and everywhere are ppl saying "just quit, its not for u" i wouldnt join this game because i wouldnt feel like i would be welcome here if i didnt 1000% like the game.

if everybody who was unhappy with this game quit. ud have no ques for ur dalies, no buyers for ur crafted mats, no pvp to que with, no pfs. ud have nobody. u realize that right? that this IS an Online Multiplayer game, and not a solo game. regadless hm square and yoship try to peddle that.

It's a liveservice game with no long term content.
It's an mmo where people don't need to play together.
It's an rpg without rpg elements.
It uses a class based system but makes them all the same.
It provides some challenges but fails to deliver on rewards to incentivise anyone to do them.

XIV is just not a good game.
I honestly could go on for hours.
You can farm mounts but have nowhere to show them off.
You can farm better gear but it's only useful in the content you got it from.
You can get housing items but the housing system is terrible so most players don't even have one.

Nothing in this game matters or makes a difference.

It is not hard to make the content have longevity. it is not have to have old achievments (like savage) mean something, wow does it fine, and i dont care what u think of bliz or wow. the fact is, to be blunt. they do this aspect correct.

but heres wat ill do. ill sub when content drops, and ill unsub when its gone, and ill show square and yoshida that my subscription is only based on the content he provides. and that im unwilling to pay for downtime or mediocrity. and if everybody did this.. lemmi tell u.. this games devs would be bricking it and thing WOULD change.

ill not be replying to replies of this comment, because honestly. ive said my bit and i dont care what anyone else thinks. after next week im unsubbed and gone till dawntrail. and if dawntrail is just as bad as this exp. ill be only subbing for 1 month every 3 years when the expansion is at its final patch. I funedimentally refuse to keep paying for nothing after FOUR years of it

[Erzaa]

or the game studio sees a lack of profit and decides its not worth the hassle for the main team, the game gets handed to a cheaper studio, put on the cloud and goes in to maintenance mode with 6+ months between every patch, and basically left to die wile it milks its whales for all it can get until it releases next product, all while the people working on the game start getting re directed to newer titles and their focus becomes less and less on the game untill the director starts focusing on other main line games instead.... just for instance...

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
the game LITERALLY tells us to come here with our problems and complaints, the forums are not for you pat the devs on the back for successfully receiving your payment..
this is the MEDIUM at witch the PLAYER-BASE is meant to CONTACT the DEV team.
maybe think about that before you critize people for doing that very thing.

plenty of people do take their money elsewhere, you mentioned the wow exodus, kinda funny considering that the servers seem almost dead since those days, guess there was a FFXIV exodus, but its ok you still have your alt and RP cafe.

You're absolutely right. But, how many times do you need to repeat the same problems you have with the game, not having them changed, before you realise you're being ignored?

It could be you're being ignored for many reasons. Maybe you're complaints aren't valid, maybe more of the playerbase doesn't agree with you, maybe the developers just really don't care one way or another.

But how many times will you repeat yourself, before finally giving up and saying I've had enough, you can't have my money anymore?

And restaurant example, you call, you complain, they don't listen, do you keep going back and eating their food?

[Mostly_Raxus]

Thank you, though: your message is a pretty good illustration of what I wanted to convey, since you assume that hands are extremely important (hyperfixation on an element that is, objectivly, only marginal... And you chocking on it won't change anything)

typical straw man, i could care less about the hands, or graphic update at all, new texture packs are easy as heck to implement, and are just an excuse you will see a DT launch as to why they didn't get around to something else.

my entire point went in one ear and out the other, and you just heard what you wanted to hear so you could continue talking the point you wanted to impose on us. based on your own prejudice not based on the facts expressed here in the thread.

you need us to be a certain way so you can validate your views on disregarding our opinions. so you just hear and see what you need to justify your ways.