Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Here's my problem with the more DPS actions/complexity - it affects everyone, whether or not people insist it will, including the people that don't/won't like it. And if it ISN'T ultimately satisfying for the people that want more, then they'll just continue to ask for more. Moreover, it doesn't fix the underlying issues of the role and encounter design/kit mismatch, nor the issues of healer players that are currently dissatisfied but DON'T want more DPS as their solution.

Fair?
No.

To the first bit I've put in bold: Be charitable and assume that when someone asks for more DPS actions/complexity — and when they make this ask with details including specific actions and procs and gauges and potencies – unless they themselves state otherwise, maybe that person would actually be satisfied with what they just asked for.

"If it isn't ultimately satisfying" is just as useless a retort to "people that want more required healing." The actual responses take a different tack and are more nuanced – mine being that there is room for more required healing (for example: continuing autos through cast bars; random, untelegraphed cleaves and mini tank busters), but you also need to leave time for recovering from mistakes.

To the second bit I've put in bold: I believe your "usual" conversational foils agree on that point, so I'm not entirely certain why you keep bringing it up as if it's a point of contention. (It's also true of "more required healing.")