Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
We dont need to do calculations tbf
100%! You do not need to do calculations. But when communication via words is failing, converting arguments into their mathematical/logical cores — without the distracting filigree of words — can cut away the excess and ease communication and shared understanding. Where words can have us running around in circles, it is trivial to see that given only A > B you cannot arrive at the outcome of B < T.

Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
Idk why you're going on full blast math to try and justify them not moving
This is the statement that reminds me that I'm having a discussion on an internet forum, where there's a tendency for discussions to become a battle between two opposing sides rather than a collaborative and reasoned discussion in search of truth.

Because I'm in no way aiming to justify the OP. Regardless of which side of a debate you're on, and regardless of which side of a debate the person who made an argument was on, when someone presents a flawed argument, it's in everyone's best interest that that specific argument be corrected. Flawed arguments waste everyone's time and add noise that gets in the way of reaching a coherent outcome. Correcting a flawed argument does not mean that that one side or the other is wrong; it just means that's not an argument that can be used in a logical and well-reasoned debate.

And with that in mind, I saw a pretty good argument against OP from a commenter I generally appreciate and respect. But at the tail end of their good arguments was something illogical. Because I value logic and respect this commenter and know they are better than that, I replied with a correction.

It's a bit silly that something as simple as pointing out a bad argument has people assuming I'm on the side of their enemies, but that's what so many of us have become accustomed to on the internet, so I get it.