Housing needs to be account based

[Jojoya]

You act as though Dynamis is going to be a ghost town forever. People will eventually populate the server, and the problem will perpetuate because the houses they as individuals could have bid on are now instead being overtaken by shell FCs created by entitled cringelords. You can't pretend that this isn't the end result of your mentality.

I'm looking back at when SE added other new worlds in the past. They don't become populated overnight. By the time they do become populated, SE may have added new wards to all worlds.

Or maybe SE will break down and finally give us the instanced housing system we need (and which is not the one we already have - apartments). If that happens, it won't matter how many houses a player owns because all other players will be able to do the same if they choose while no one is blocked from getting a house.

It's not my mentality creating the problem. It's SE's poor housing design that has.

Detach workshops and gardens from housing and you've removed 80% of the reason to be a multi-house owner. Use a proper instanced housing system instead of the static ward mess and you've removed another 15% (profit through reselling disappears, avoiding Paissa houses and other eyesores erected by neighbors is easily accomplished). There will still be those that want multiple because they love to decorate and redecorate but that would no longer impact the ability of others to get a house.

[Impia]

This kind of behavior isn't exactly against the rule nowaday.

They make account for this, they have to create a Lvl 6 FC with at least 30 days old. And they have to make the money to get a house. But even before all those restriction, that mean Millions and Millions of gils to reach something like this.

Is it against the rule ? No. Cause now, player who try to do the same will have to pay One account for at least 2 house. So for 30 house, you have to pay 15 accounts. Which will easily go over 100$ (I'm sorry, I'm not in the US, so I don't know how much it is for you, but in € it will be something like 150€ per month, just to keep up all those house.)

Is it morally correct to do that ? Probably not. Because you are bound to make a whole bunch of player angry.

It's a matter of fact that once you have your "Third" house, you may have an advantage on the crops you try grow against other player who own house from "regular" mean

To put it simply, let's admit that you have 2 Large House (One of your FC, and one on your own). You have 6 farms which contains 8 plots each, for a total of 48 crops. (Counting like this : 8 for Small house, 16 for Medium and 24 for Large).

Now let's take the "worst" case, a player who own every 30 house of a sector, this means, that player will have something like : 20 Small, 6 Medium, 3 Large. For a total of 41 farm, which goes up to 328 Crops available.

A player like that can produce 280 Crops more than you will do everyday (Let's assume you make the same crops).

In your eyes, and pretty much the rest of the community, this will be unfair. But the player who bought all those house will say "I did a whole bunch of effort to get there", and won't see that as a problem.

Again, those guys didn't cheat (Or at least, we have to prove it, so Innocent until proven Guilty). That's sad, but that's how it is. And unless Square Enix is really going to track all of those player down and compensate for their loss, nothing will change. (I'm pretty sure they won't do it anyway.)

Certainly it's not against the ToS. I'm not a lawyer, I'm not interested in whether this is against the rules or not, and I am aware of the logistics of being a multi owner. I find the behavior reprehensible, selfish, and I advocate for a system to remove this behavior. It's as simple as that.

[Impia]

I don't agree with your methods, but it is an issue. People who think being able to own multiple personals across their account(s) are insane. The game wasn't made for that. The devs didn't intend that.





I know everyone has to start posting somewhere, but it reflects poorly when you literally made an account to insult someone's posts and ideas, especially when said person isn't a troll or bad actor.

Yeah, they're not the greatest ideas, I don't like half of them either, but you don't see me letting the OP live in my head rent free and posting purely to insult them.

Re-read and saw this. I understand the issue as I failed to quote. My grievance isn't with OP, it was with Stormpeaks. I have little interest in being diplomatic with them here.

[Stormpeaks]

Re-read and saw this. I understand the issue as I failed to quote. My grievance isn't with OP, it was with Stormpeaks. I have little interest in being diplomatic with them here.

Likewise buddy, dont you worry I'm good with my houses while you're out here complaining.

But thank you for your opinion bud

[TabrisOmbrelame]

I find the behavior reprehensible, selfish, and I advocate for a system to remove this behavior. It's as simple as that.

Reprehensible : If it's not in the ToS, then it's not. This cannot be reprehensible by any sanction. It sure isn't ethic, but since it isn't against the rule, you can't do anything about it.
Selfish : Yes, completely. Doing this render unable several player to own a house. On the entire playerbase it doesn't amount at "much" but it's still selfish towards potential owners which can be counted in the two or three digit in total.

All of this housing stuff is so poorly made that everyone is technically right on their own. I'm going to stay into a neutral aspect for this subject tho.

Again, It's Selfish, but not against the rules.

[ZiraZ]

Agreed, this would also slow down sub farm RMTers

[Reinha]

You act as though Dynamis is going to be a ghost town forever. People will eventually populate the server, and the problem will perpetuate because the houses they as individuals could have bid on are now instead being overtaken by shell FCs created by entitled cringelords. You can't pretend that this isn't the end result of your mentality.

What are you talking about lol? Omega server was added in 2017 and it has 800+ houses available, in line with the oldest EU servers. Spriggan was added in 2019 and it has 1300+ houses. Phantom, added in 2022, has 3800+ houses. That means it takes roughly 6 years for a server to be as populated as the other servers in the same region.

If you want an NA example, your server Maduin was added in 2022 and it has 3600+ plots available, similar to Phantom. It's going to take multiple years before the population will rival that of the oldest NA servers, especially now that people are moving away from Dynamis. Moreover, Dynamis has another 4 new servers planned.

You want those empty plots to sit unused for 3 expansions? Come on.

[Impia]

Likewise buddy, dont you worry I'm good with my houses while you're out here complaining.

But thank you for your opinion bud

Barf. I'm more than happy with my one large, and I'd like OP to be able to get one as well.

[Bonoki]

Exactly this lol.

There's no problem, if you care about housing dynamis is open, if you don't want to sacrifice the convenience of your own world then you'll have to bid like everyone else., said bluntly, get in line.

Dc travel exists, there's no reason not to move if you really want a house.

This "I dont have it so take it away from everyone else" attitude needs to stop

There is a problem. Just because YOU say there isn't one doesn't mean there isn't one. It just means you don't care, and of course you don't care because it'd impact the housing monopoly you have. It's only natural you'd in bad faith claim there isn't a problem because you are apart of the problem.
Whenever a housing thread is made, you are there, every single time, to pretend there isn't a problem because you don't want SE taking what you got going back.

[NanaWiloh]

I have 1 personal 1 FC house...I dont get why someone would want more then that number on one world. I guess I am not getting the allure of owning mulitple homes on a single world.