Housing needs to be account based

[hynaku]

Didn't they already make housing account based a long time ago. Where you can only own 1 house and fc house per account on each server. They don't need to make any more changes, it's already hard enough winning the lottery for a house.

[Vandso]

What problems?

There's no house available. The lottery system is a pain in the ass even for small houses. Sure there are houses in Dynamis but you can't buy them unless you're from Dynamis, but I wouldn't abandon my friends, my FC or my crystal pvp rank just to get a house.

Honestly, this would be a bad idea as much as I want to support it. But only because we would need to figure out a solution to the multiboxers who would just buy up all the freely opened plots across their many accounts.

I think you should just issue a warning beforehand and give them a refund for the houses they have, and make them choose one to keep. Making another account to have a house is more difficult than making another character, so at least we will lessen the issues.

I don't agree with your methods, but it is an issue. People who think being able to own multiple personals across their account(s) are insane. The game wasn't made for that. The devs didn't intend that.

I don't believe it's the best solution either, but it's one of them. I just don't think instanced housing will happen.

[Jojoya]

I find it really hard for Yoshi-P to decide to implement our so desired instanced housing in this game, I mean, you would have to demolish every personal house, every FC house, every venue, people would get mad af. But account based housing, yeah that's easy to do. The only ones who will complain are the ones who have multiple houses, which are the source of all these problems already.

Also this game needs more account wide stuff. Mogstation and seasonal items, achievements, MSQ, all that should be account wide.

Btw Lakeland residential district when?

What problem? I just bought another house last week (personal Goblet small) on Maduin. It was one house out of several hundred still available, including several mediums and a couple of larges.

Like real life, if you really want a house and can't get one where you currently live then you need to go where they're available. If you and others who claim they want a house won't, then there are others who will even if they already have houses.

Regarding account wide stuff, I'd agree about Mogstation items since they're a real money purchase. Achievements, MSQ, etc.? Nope. You can do it all on a single character so if you want those things on additional characters, play the content on that character.

I did this. I went to Dynamis and bought a house. But there's nothing else there so I went back to Primal.

There are a lot of things on Dynamis for those who aren't lazy and expecting convenience to be handed to them on a silver platter.

If the characters that had Dynamis for their home data center stayed on Dynamis instead of running off to one of the other data centers , queues would be active. The average active level 90 character population on Dynamis worlds is already higher than it is on the JP worlds per the latest LB census.

I rather wish that SE would turn off data center travel for a month and force characters back to their home worlds for the duration. If players had to interact with their home communities for a bit, most would probably see them in a different light.

but I wouldn't abandon my friends, my FC or my crystal pvp rank just to get a house.

Then the truth is that you're really not that interested in having a house so why complain?

Also, friends don't stop being friends just because you move. A good FC still includes former members that left on good terms in activities.

[Stormpeaks]

There's no house available. The lottery system is a pain in the ass even for small houses. Sure there are houses in Dynamis but you can't buy them unless you're from Dynamis, but I wouldn't abandon my friends, my FC or my crystal pvp rank just to get a house.



I think you should just issue a warning beforehand and give them a refund for the houses they have, and make them choose one to keep. Making another account to have a house is more difficult than making another character, so at least we will lessen the issues.



I don't believe it's the best solution either, but it's one of them. I just don't think instanced housing will happen.

Yet the house next to my friend on Behemoth in personal/fc ward has had 0 bids for 3 cycles

weird, guess its invisible ?

Oh it's in goblet so you dont like it, my bad

so the housing problem is solved yes ? there are houses, you not wanting them because "it's goblet" or "it's empty" is not SE's problem.

What problem? I just bought another house last week (personal Goblet small) on Maduin. It was one house out of several hundred still available, including several mediums and a couple of larges.

Like real life, if you really want a house and can't get one where you currently live then you need to go where they're available. If you and others who claim they want a house won't, then there are others who will even if they already have houses.

Regarding account wide stuff, I'd agree about Mogstation items since they're a real money purchase. Achievements, MSQ, etc.? Nope. You can do it all on a single character so if you want those things on additional characters, play the content on that character.


There are a lot of things on Dynamis for those who aren't lazy and expecting convenience to be handed to them on a silver platter.

If the characters that had Dynamis for their home data center stayed on Dynamis instead of running off to one of the other data centers , queues would be active. The average active level 90 character population on Dynamis worlds is already higher than it is on the JP worlds per the latest LB census.

I rather wish that SE would turn off data center travel for a month and force characters back to their home worlds for the duration. If players had to interact with their home communities for a bit, most would probably see them in a different light.


Then the truth is that you're really not that interested in having a house so why complain?

Also, friends don't stop being friends just because you move. A good FC still includes former members that left on good terms in activities.

Pure truth, for once Jojoya and I are in full agreement

If you absolutely want your favorite house, a medium or a large, you move to Dynamis or you get in line on your own DC, it's up to you, if you dont, dont complain.

[Vandso]

Yet the house next to my friend on Behemoth in personal/fc ward has had 0 bids for 3 cycles

weird, guess its invisible ?

Oh it's in goblet so you dont like it, my bad

so the housing problem is solved yes ? there are houses, you not wanting them because "it's goblet" or "it's empty" is not SE's problem.



Pure truth, for once Jojoya and I are in full agreement

If you absolutely want your favorite house, a medium or a large, you move to Dynamis or you get in line on your own DC, it's up to you, if you dont, dont complain.

So 1 house is available therefore there's no problem? Even in Goblet 95% of the FC/personal wards are full. Also why should I have to choose Goblet just because it's the one available? I want to have the freedom to choose the residential district that I like, among all of them.

[Stormpeaks]

So 1 house is available therefore there's no problem? Even in Goblet 95% of the FC/personal wards are full. Also why should I have to choose Goblet just because it's the one available? I want to have the freedom to choose the residential district that I like, among all of them.

Yeah thought so, thank you for proving my point and also Jojoya's point

You are being selective in the plots and that's why you cant get a house.

Also there aint only 1 house.

As of right now :

161 plots match your current filters. (Personals)
518 plots match your current filters. (FC)

Taken right from the Paissa website.

You're welcome.

[Avoidy]

Dynamis was a mistake and the people who got baited into going there should be given a free pass back to a living DC along with an apology from Yoshida himself. DC travel ruined any chance that world had of standing on its own and forming a unique community identity. Everybody who plays there logs in and immediately warps over to Aether for content or Crystal for RP, and the whole DC is just a wasteland with a dead marketplace, desolate queues, empty towns, and a drowning partyfinder. There's a reason the homes are available on Dynamis. It's because the DC's been abandoned. First by CBU3. Then by the player base at large. Even the RPers who wanted to make it fun eventually gave up when they decorated some sick venues and nobody even showed up because everyone was busy on Crystal instead. I genuinely feel bad for everyone who moved there thinking they were on the bleeding edge of some new frontier, only to have people call Dynamis a "suburb" and basically just buy a house there and then jump ship back to Aether where they spend 99% of their time (the other 1% is spent checking their retainer and re-entering their home so it isn't demolished). The only way this gets better is if Dynamis becomes the only DC people are allowed to make characters on when Dawntrail launches, and even then it has to compete with aether/crystal due to dc travel. No new DC will ever get a chance to find itself again thanks to that feature.

IDK about OP's suggestion. I'm just sick of hearing "gO tO DyNamIs", like come on. Be real. If anything, dynamis' housing resources should be reallocated to worlds that actually have shortages.

Also shout out to CBU3 for letting all these "Grandfathered in" assholes continue to own entire wards. Absolute morons in charge.

[Reinha]

Also why should I have to choose Goblet just because it's the one available? I want to have the freedom to choose the residential district that I like, among all of them.

So this is the "problem" you want every fc and player to lose their houses for?

Nah, everyone should keep their houses while you remain without one.

[LilimoLimomo]

I find it really hard for Yoshi-P to decide to implement our so desired instanced housing in this game, I mean, you would have to demolish every personal house, every FC house, every venue, people would get mad af.

This is such a wild assumption. There is absolutely no requirement that any existing housing be removed in order to add instanced housing to the game.

[LilimoLimomo]

Then the truth is that you're really not that interested in having a house so why complain?

Overall I tend to like your thoughtful posts, Jojoya, so I wanted to keep you honest on this one. Life often presents us with situations where we can't get everything we want, and sometimes we have to make choices between which of two things that are important to us is more important. Choosing Thing A over Thing B doesn't in any way demonstrate an objective lack of interest in Thing B; it simply shows which one was rated higher relative to the other.

I know people who have had to choose between having a roof over their head and taking care of a lifelong pet. To suggest that a person "isn't really interested" in whichever one they give up would be both inaccurate and needlessly cruel.