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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    There is a problem. Just because YOU say there isn't one doesn't mean there isn't one. It just means you don't care, and of course you don't care because it'd impact the housing monopoly you have. It's only natural you'd in bad faith claim there isn't a problem because you are apart of the problem.
    Whenever a housing thread is made, you are there, every single time, to pretend there isn't a problem because you don't want SE taking what you got going back.
    Weird how I changed from EU to NA and managed to get multiple houses from scratch.

    It's almost like anybody can do it. So much for a "big problem"

    Also I ain't scared of losing what I have, I won it fair and square, I have nothing to be scared of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Weird how I changed from EU to NA and managed to get multiple houses from scratch.

    It's almost like anybody can do it. So much for a "big problem"

    Also I ain't scared of losing what I have, I won it fair and square, I have nothing to be scared of
    One house on one account of how many characters you own? But please go on about your amazing bravery. It will surely set this amazing standard you very much believe in.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 11-11-2023 at 05:19 AM.
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    There is a problem. Just because YOU say there isn't one doesn't mean there isn't one. It just means you don't care, and of course you don't care because it'd impact the housing monopoly you have. It's only natural you'd in bad faith claim there isn't a problem because you are apart of the problem.
    Whenever a housing thread is made, you are there, every single time, to pretend there isn't a problem because you don't want SE taking what you got going back.
    Based. Glad someone else finally said it.
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  4. #64
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    One house on one account of how many characters you own? But please go on about your amazing bravery. It will surely set this amazing standard you very much believe in.
    Who said one house ?

    Also there are no "standards", I play for my own fun, and I do what I have fun doing. It's okay to disagree though.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 11-11-2023 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Who said one house ?

    Also there are no "standards", I play for my own fun, and I do what I have fun doing. It's okay to disagree though.
    "I eat every slice of cake that was laid out for everyone at the function. There will theoretically be more cake somewhere else and I *can* eat it all so I'm going to because that's what I think is fun. It's okay to disagree though."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Based. Glad someone else finally said it.
    Other people have been saying it, but certain individuals like to cover their ears and pretend it's closeted jealousy than acknowledging that some people possess the capacity to see beyond their own nose. It's a hilariously selfish attitude to have, and it's inevitably the same people every time.
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    I don't care if people have a ton of houses, but I do care that individuals are able to horde many houses with a single account, when houses are a limited resource.

    However, I can't blame the players for this, it would be trivial to stop, but SE obviously doesn't care enough to stop it. I'm not convinced they think there's anything wrong with the system. It's easy to blame people like Stormy, but she's supporting the game more than I do with her accounts, and she's not breaking any rules by doing what she does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I don't care if people have a ton of houses, but I do care that individuals are able to horde many houses with a single account, when houses are a limited resource.

    However, I can't blame the players for this, it would be trivial to stop, but SE obviously doesn't care enough to stop it. I'm not convinced they think there's anything wrong with the system. It's easy to blame people like Stormy, but she's supporting the game more than I do with her accounts, and she's not breaking any rules by doing what she does.
    Two things can be true at the same time. I dislike this take as it dissolves player's responsibility for their actions. We don't know what SE can or can't do about this situation clearly, we just know whatever it is they haven't done it. Yet.

    What we *can* know is that players like Stormy are taking advantage of the situation to the detriment of others, and that is 100% their fault for doing so. Doubly so when they actively advocate for this status quo in every single housing thread. A bad actor is not somehow less responsible for their actions by the presence of an enabler.
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    Last edited by Impia; 11-11-2023 at 08:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Two things can be true at the same time. I dislike this take as it dissolves player's responsibility for their actions. We don't know what SE can or can't do about this situation clearly, we just know whatever it is they haven't done it. Yet.

    What we *can* know is that players like Stormy are taking advantage of the situation to the detriment of others, and that is 100% their fault for doing so. Doubly so when they actively advocate for this status quo in every single housing thread. A bad actor is not somehow less responsible for their actions by the presence of an enabler.
    I really wonder if you and I speak the same language.

    I will repeat it one more time.

    There are multiple thousands plots open on Dynamis as of today. I can't "take advantage" of something that people don't want. There is no such thing.

    And as Boblawblah mentioned, I have a lot of accounts that I pay for to get what I have, the more effort and investment you put in something, the more results you get, that's life.

    But you can't come out here and start telling me I am taking the opportunity of getting a house away from people while there's multiple thousands of open plots, you just can't at least not without some massive bad faith (and also a big touch of jealousy)

    If I was on older NA worlds I would agree, but considering I am on Dynamis, yall are arguing on a non issue. With thousands of plots open, there is no harm done, but feel free to pretend it's doing harm if it makes you feel better because the "big bad multiowners" are taking the small houses that no one wants because they are not in the best locations and are still sitting empty every week with 0 bids.

    Yall are literally using me to target your hate of multiowners which is actually laughable considering this is my hobby in this game and also my main activity, I dont just leave my houses empty, I decorate every single one of them (inside and out) with different themes and make them look as good as I can so they fit the neighborhood, unlike other multiowners who leave the house completely empty and don't even bother to decorate anything so it just sits there.

    But please by all means, do continue and attack one of the only good ones that actually cares about housing and not only the Gil side of it, ill just tell you one thing
    it doesnt make you the "good person" you think you are.

    That was my last response to you two attacking me, I ain't gonna tolerate anymore disrespect and then try and be nice responding and giving my stance defending it to then get attacked even more. Yall don't like it ? Take it to SE. I am sure they will feel really bad about the almost 200€ per month I pay for this game with my subscriptions.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 11-11-2023 at 10:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I really wonder if you and I speak the same language.

    I will repeat it one more time.

    There are multiple thousands plots open on Dynamis as of today. I can't "take advantage" of something that people don't want. There is no such thing.

    And as Boblawblah mentioned, I have a lot of accounts that I pay for to get what I have, the more effort and investment you put in something, the more results you get, that's life.

    But you can't come out here and start telling me I am taking the opportunity of getting a house away from people while there's multiple thousands of open plots, you just can't at least not without some massive bad faith (and also a big touch of jealousy)

    If I was on older NA worlds I would agree, but considering I am on Dynamis, yall are arguing on a non issue. With thousands of plots open, there is no harm done, but feel free to pretend it's doing harm if it makes you feel better because the "big bad multiowners" are taking the small houses that no one wants because they are not in the best locations and are still sitting empty every week with 0 bids.

    Yall are literally using me to target your hate of multiowners which is actually laughable considering this is my hobby in this game and also my main activity, I dont just leave my houses empty, I decorate every single one of them (inside and out) with different themes and make them look as good as I can so they fit the neighborhood, unlike other multiowners who leave the house completely empty and don't even bother to decorate anything so it just sits there.

    But please by all means, do continue and attack one of the only good ones that actually cares about housing and not only the Gil side of it, ill just tell you one thing
    it doesnt make you the "good person" you think you are.

    That was my last response to you two attacking me, I ain't gonna tolerate anymore disrespect and then try and be nice responding and giving my stance defending it to then get attacked even more. Yall don't like it ? Take it to SE. I am sure they will feel really bad about the almost 200€ per month I pay for this game with my subscriptions.
    *disrespects u*
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