If they implement in a meaningful way, sure, if they are going to force it and change a character's gender or sexuality for no reason at all, then no, most companies dont have a very good record of implementing it right, so it's always a bit ehAnd my entire point is that if there's nothing wrong with it, why so much pushback? Going to the absurd lengths of arguing in favor of Saudi Arabia censorship or cynical money instead?
You said yourself that Dion was well implemented in XVI. Yes, I've hardly seen anyone disagree with that.
So didn't Square Enix prove they were able to tackle the subject tactfully already?
Well personally I'm not asking for that. I'm not sure anyone here is (except Titanmen but you know he's here for that kind of inflammatory takes). If representation can be done in meaningful ways, it's all the better.
I don't even care if FFXIV ever gets any representation in the future at this point, especially since my interest in this game has been waning after years of stupid decisions from SE.
But I don't want companies to be afraid to even try because it would offend some people who will never be happy about it anyway.
EDIT: Glad we managed to reach an understanding. It's especially rare here!
Last edited by Kazhar; 07-08-2023 at 11:16 PM.
yeah nah I agree with you, as much as it's done in a meaningful way I approve, that's how it should be doneWell personally I'm not asking for that. I'm not sure anyone here is (except Titanmen but you know he's here for that kind of inflammatory takes). If representation can be done in meaningful ways, it's all the better.
I don't even care if FFXIV ever gets any representation in the future at this point, especially since my interest in this game has been waning after years of stupid decisions from SE.
But I don't want companies to be afraid to even try because it would offend some people who will never be happy about it anyway.
I think thats one of the things that has always bugged me about these debates here, they get started and people seem to jump straight (haha) ahead and assume that people want offensive caricatures who mention their sexuality every 12 second and are predatory perverts. I do not think anyone has ever really said they want that, well perhaps TitanMan but they could not be more obvious a troll if they lived under a bridge. Dion is the exact type of character people actually want, someone who is a well-written individual where his sexuality is a building block of who he is, not the entire foundation. The fact there has not been as much blowback about it as expected is a welcoming sign (Even if its still depressing to see some rage against it) and honestly I think its worth the ban in Saudi and the like. They could have easily cut it and taken the cash, but they did not, and for all the crap SE has been doing of late, this choice is one I respect.
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