Now that FF16 will feature LGBT+ characters, can we get some rep in FF14 too?

[Stormpeaks]

How... how does their post say anything like that? All they suggest is like, one off lines at most. Theres more sexuality being expose in NPCs talking about Thancred being a ladies man, Krile teasing Alphinaud about how he would be embaressed around girls, and not to mention Urianger’s arc with Moenbryda ect.

I am more talking that it's sort of forced, at least the original idea is, if you really think about it, there is no need for any of what I quoted in my previous post to happen, now if you want to make new characters (and please god i hope that happens, msq is so boring at this point with the same characters all the time) and for the new characters to be gay,bi or trans or whatever else, there's too many genders at this point but you get the idea, I'm all for it, as long as it's done in a smooth way without forcing it

[Hurlstone]

I am more talking that it's sort of forced, at least the original idea is, if you really think about it, there is no need for any of what I quoted in my previous post to happen, now if you want to make new characters (and please god i hope that happens, msq is so boring at this point with the same characters all the time) and for the new characters to be gay,bi or trans or whatever else, there's too many genders at this point but you get the idea, I'm all for it, as long as it's done in a smooth way without forcing it

True, there may be no real need for that information to come out (ha) but that can be said about many things we know about these characters. If we have a quest where we must find out what the Scions favourite donut filling is, does the game suddenly become about feasting and denying savour treats? Is that what a MMORPG should be? Frankly when it comes to RPGs, I want to know more stuff like that. I am the type of person who will go through ever dialogue tree option. If the stern military leader has a secret love of romantic fiction, I want to know! Characters risk becoming flat and forgettable if all we know about them has to be tied directly into the story beats. Thats not to say we have to find out characters preferences that way, or that the writing fails if its left a mystery, just that I do not see how finding out that way as some sort of knock on the head with a big pink mallet, perhaps so long as the conversation is not straight (ha) away 'Hello person I have never seen before, I am a lady who likes other ladies and will only talk about this for the next eight hours.' Frankly thats anoying enough when some RPG characters trope is just 'flirtatious ladies man'

Plus, no video game is prefect with all of its themes and how it handles character interactions and involvement. Just because past cases have felt forced in some peoples eyes, that does not mean we should cast the idea as taboo or pre-judge how a game may do it. Like I have been really enjoying FFXVI and love how Dion is used, but I could also write an essay on how the writing fails on other levels, in regards to some supporting characters and how some of their themes are explored etc. Creating a new character who is not heteronormative may well indeed be the best way forward in regards to less ‘controversy’, and honestly after the way Dion has been received I think this will happen in 7.0 or beyond, but even then there will be those calling such an act forced or moving the goalposts. You see it even when original LGBTQ characters are revealed, and especially in the rare occasions where trans characters are involved, given how they are most bigots #1 target at the moment.

To be fair hearing the person is a flamebaiter kinda explains this. I've been in the lgbt community for a long time, and the most I've heard is LGBTQA+, and one thing anti-lgbt people tend to do is add a ton of random letters to make it hard to read. Sidenote, if you ever see them add a "P", it's a 100% absolute sign that they're an anti-lgbt troll.

"2S" in this case means Two Spirit(I'm assuming), but most two spirit people I know(Grew up in Oklahoma, Two Spirit is a native american thing) just consider themselves trans, so they're covered in the T.

Honestly I feel I lost the 'Updated name' memo, because the only people I ever hear use that expanded definition are people complaining about it. Kinda feels more like its just been parroted as an attack against the community, rather then an honest attempt to expand it. Akin to the assumptions people make about trans folk.