Now that FF16 will feature LGBT+ characters, can we get some rep in FF14 too?

[Stormpeaks]

What I liked about Dion is that I feel like he was the gay character done right. The LGBT parts weren't shoved down the throat. The kiss was there, it happened, and everyone moved on. It allowed him to feel like a normal human being to me because I wasn't constantly reminded every scene about his sexuality. I am a right leaning person and by the end of the game, Dion ended up becoming one of my favorite characters. So that should really tell you something. It kind of helps that the internet didn't make a big giant deal out of it like Ryne and Gaia holding hands. Dion is in my opinion, the best example of how we been wanting characters to be approached for a long time now. Instead of taking already established characters and turning them into something else. Other companies should really take note of how SE handled Dion and follow suit.

This is the biggest thing about all this tbh, if it's implemented right, it's fine, but the problem is that most of the time characters magically turn bisexual or gay, or even transgender, for no particular reason at all, and it's just right down people's throat for no reason, that's just not how you put inclusivity in your game, what happens is that you make people hate it because its literally so forced it's completely obvious

[SquirrelDerp]

This is the biggest thing about all this tbh, if it's implemented right, it's fine, but the problem is that most of the time characters magically turn bisexual or gay, or even transgender, for no particular reason at all, and it's just right down people's throat for no reason, that's just not how you put inclusivity in your game, what happens is that you make people hate it because its literally so forced it's completely obvious

I mean that's how real people are too. Some people are just gay, bi, or transgender etc for no reason.

In fact I'd argue there's literally no reason anyone is any of those things. It just happens lol

I'd be more weirded out if characters in a story had a reason to be gay. That reads like the writers are very straight and never met an lgbt person.

I mean heck, if you know any transgender folks, from the outside it can look like they randomly out of nowhere decided to change their gender, but it's just cause they didn't talk about it much before because;
-They're worried how people will react
-They weren't completely sure before taking the plunge.

[Stormpeaks]

I mean that's how real people are too. Some people are just gay, bi, or transgender etc for no reason.

In fact I'd argue there's literally no reason anyone is any of those things. It just happens lol

I'd be more weirded out if characters in a story had a reason to be gay. That reads like the writers are very straight and never met an lgbt person.

I mean heck, if you know any transgender folks, from the outside it can look like they randomly out of nowhere decided to change their gender, but it's just cause they didn't talk about it much before because;
-They're worried how people will react
-They weren't completely sure before taking the plunge.

I really dont think you understood my point

[SquirrelDerp]

I really dont think you understood my point

Just because I didn't agree, doesn't mean I didn't understand.

My point is people are messy, people 'randomly' become gay or trans, and that happening isn't it being forced down your throat, it's just realistic lol

[Stormpeaks]

Just because I didn't agree, doesn't mean I didn't understand.

My point is people are messy, people 'randomly' become gay or trans, and that happening isn't it being forced down your throat, it's just realistic lol

No you actually quite literally misunderstood it, be it on purpose or not, I never said you need to have a "reason" to be gay or bisexual, or even transgender, I am talking strictly from a video game standpoint.

[SquirrelDerp]

No you actually quite literally misnderstood it, be it on purpose or not, I never said you need to have a "reason" to be gay or bisexual, or even transgender, I am talking strictly from a video game standpoint.

Hrm? Did you misspeak then?

but the problem is that most of the time characters magically turn bisexual or gay, or even transgender, for no particular reason at all

Because it sure seems that you think there not being a reason is "the problem"

[Kes13a]

Hrm? Did you misspeak then?



Because it sure seems that you think there not being a reason is "the problem"

pretty sure that she meant if they havent been gay for 10 years and suddenly there 50% of the main cast is gay or transgender... thats a problem. thats not representation, thats forcing it down your throat.