Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Yeah, but what I mean is, I don't even think it's that. Most people aren't trying to hyperoptimize in this game. If someone's doing a daily Expert for 90 tomes, they don't care if it takes 15 mins or so. They aren't putting together a speed running group to cut off 3-5 minutes. Most people want the easiest path, and that's DF, not PF. The difference also isn't huge. The log speed runs are probably pretty coordinated parties, not the "average player" experience/output. Me personally, I don't feel comfortable Tanking without a Healer, and I think people VASTLY understate the damage Tanks take because the specific case of WAR and Bloodletting make it seem like it's universal, but even most of the speed runs (as someone else in here said) use a WAR for the Tank, meaning it's a much more isolated issue than it might otherwise appear.

But the point holds that people are probably overestimating how many people are actually doing this. Even when I have FC only runs of Experts, people always form a T/H/D/D party. No one's ever asked for a T/3D party in my FC. I'm sure it happens with people, but again, I think it's much less prevalent than people make it out to be. Which is true of MOST of the Healer-related topics in this game (e.g. 1 Healer Ultimates has a similar problem of people vastly overstating what is barely possible, and is only possible when RNG perfectly lines up, every player in the team makes no mistakes and are willing to dedicate hours to getting that perfect RNG, and where only one Healer Job seems able to even do it.)
My problem is that it shouldn't be possible. And honestly the only reason why dungeons I think are an issue is because of W2W. Bosses in this game are 100% soloable by tanks with the healing they have and that's... dumb.

Savage and Ultimate are even more egregious. The hardest content in the game made for a group of 8 players, 2 tanks and 2 healers can be completed without 2 healers? Really. That's OK SE? That's the issue with 1T/3DPS. That its even possible to begin with. There should be healer mechanics, of that we all agree, and there are, but not enough to ACTUALLY need a healer.