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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I know the above is in jest...
    This, and a fair point. It's a weird glitch that I'm now wondering if it extends to other things, such as single Healer 8 mans. If it only activates with two of the same Job (there seem to be a lot of BLM/BLM cases) or what. And why it randomly selects from the Healer Jobs, so there doesn't actually seem to be any consistency to it that would expose it from a surface level.

    Using Lapis Manalis, it seems the difference is between 10 and some change minutes vs just over 12, so around a 20% difference, give or take. This may be different in different dungeons, but the older ones can also be more outgeared, so using the most current one is probably best for the results (not to mention only the two most recent will turn up in Expert)

    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I'd still say it just feels bad to play a job that's only included because the duty finder requires it for matched parties, and that people are all too happy to drop the moment a coded system isn't enforcing it.
    I'm not sure the latter part is true. Healers are kind of like having an insurance policy, not everyone wants them, but a lot of people like having them around, even if they don't actually need them. Healers incur a slightly slower speed for considerable added security. Whether that's something desired is up to the individual. It's similar to the argument of people taking a BLM or a SMN in an 8 man group for their Caster slot. Sometimes a random bad luck will happen and both Healers go down. If the party has that SMN (or RDM), the might be doing a good enough run to still get the clear, but obviously they have to reset and start over if they have a BLM. It's kind of how much security you want.

    I don't think it's accurate to say "people are all to happy to drop the moment" that they aren't forced to do it. The amount of people that make full T/3D premade runs is pretty small compared to the people that just que into DF or use a normal T/H/2D comp, even with their premades. I think it's fair to say that some people want to drop it when allowed, but I think it's easy to overestimate how many are actually doing so.

    And as Fulminating says, I've also had to tank on a Healer before while picking up bodies - something I couldn't have done if on a general DPS Job.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 03-26-2023 at 09:38 AM. Reason: EDIT for typo