There is so much to do in this game that...

[TomsYoungerBro]

I dont have an issue with exploratory zones on principle but they seem very much linked to the idea of old school mmo grinding for the sake of it. I'm always glad when grinds like that get axed from the design philosophy.

Im not saying eureka or bozja were perfect (though i think bozja was pretty good), but at what point was any of this content required? The relic is completely unnecessary, and Bozja did not lock the player out of any non-bozja related content. You can simply not touch it and miss nothing. If you want the relic, do it. If not, dont! Simple.

I think this is the biggest issue with the game's design right now. It caters to those who want everything, but only their way. The most common reason ive seen on the forums for liking the recent relic step is that they are getting the relic simply by what they always do: Roulettes. They dont want to do content for the item. They just want it so they can show it off at limsa or the venues.

[Saraide]

Because content that lasts 5minutes will never be fun. You said it yourself, you had fun for the first few relics despite being a grind. If you want more, tough luck you grind more even if its not enjoyable anymore. We shouldnt remove grinds just so people can have all relics in a day then go back to afk

All the relics in a single day? They might be unrestricted but 63000 tomes isnt exactly nothing to grind either. If content is not enjoyable anymore but it's far from being done then it has vastly outstayed its welcome. No content can last forever. Boring players is not exactly a great thing to do as you surely agree. Running the same thing over and over again because the grind wants it is just that: boring the players.

Im not saying eureka or bozja were perfect (though i think bozja was pretty good), but at what point was any of this content required? The relic is completely unnecessary, and Bozja did not lock the player out of any non-bozja related content. You can simply not touch it and miss nothing. If you want the relic, do it. If not, dont! Simple.

I think this is the biggest issue with the game's design right now. It caters to those who want everything, but only their way. The most common reason ive seen on the forums for liking the recent relic step is that they are getting the relic simply by what they always do: Roulettes. They dont want to do content for the item. They just want it so they can show it off at limsa or the venues.

Relic steps arent any more content than doing roulettes. Like that one famous tweet said: parts of the community have gaslit themselves into believing 15 times void ark is content but 1.5k tomes isnt.