There is so much to do in this game that...

[TomsYoungerBro]

Relic steps arent any more content than doing roulettes. Like that one famous tweet said: parts of the community have gaslit themselves into believing 15 times void ark is content but 1.5k tomes isnt.

Where did i say either was content? Its clear you didnt even read my post as i was talking about exploratory zone content which was the relic the past 2 expansions. Thank you for acting like a fool just like said twitter poster xD.

[Saraide]

Where did i say either was content? Its clear you didnt even read my post as i was talking about exploratory zone content which was the relic the past 2 expansions. Thank you for acting like a fool just like said twitter poster xD.

Fool? That tweeter hit the nail on the head with many forum posters. If you're not part of that group then good for you. If you dont consider the relics from bozja and eureka relic content either then I agree with you. I have said this from the very start, relics were always designed to be boring. Not sure why you replied to me then though. Do you think bozja and eureka can stand on their own feet without relics attached to them? I wonder if the popular opinion on them would still be the same or if people would lodge the same complains they have against criterion.

[Stormpeaks]

Fool? That tweeter hit the nail on the head with many forum posters. If you're not part of that group then good for you. If you dont consider the relics from bozja and eureka relic content either then I agree with you. I have said this from the very start, relics were always designed to be boring. Not sure why you replied to me then though. Do you think bozja and eureka can stand on their own feet without relics attached to them? I wonder if the popular opinion on them would still be the same or if people would lodge the same complains they have against criterion.

Are you forced to do the grind though ? I dont think you are. So why be "glad" when content that you dont like is axed ? So others dont get it even though they might like it ?

[Saraide]

Are you forced to do the grind though ? I dont think you are. So why be "glad" when content that you dont like is axed ? So others dont get it even though they might like it ?

I didnt say I was glad content got axed

[Stormpeaks]

I didnt say I was glad content got axed

Treasure maps seem like prime sunday night gaming content but there is little need to make a PF about it. I assume most FCs and statics that do treasure runs dont actively search for people in PF as even just 3 people is no issue at all.

I dont have an issue with exploratory zones on principle but they seem very much linked to the idea of old school mmo grinding for the sake of it. I'm always glad when grinds like that get axed from the design philosophy.

What other types of content make sense to be PF'd that arent savage?

I'm sorry ? How is that not saying exactly that ? Grinds are content, no matter if you like it or not.

[Kaurhz]

I'm sorry ? How is that not saying exactly that ? Grinds are content, no matter if you like it or not.

I mean if we're going on this premise that grinding is content regardless of peoples' personal feelings, then the game already has plenty of grinds embedded in it, and whether you do or don't like it absolutely sounds like a you problem.

[Saraide]

I'm sorry ? How is that not saying exactly that ?

I'm glad you asked. The thing I'm glad about is the relic grind being less grindy. Instead of running new content into the ground like bozja did with delubrum it tells you to just do whatever roulette you want (or whatever else gives unrestricted tomes). I also didnt say content got axed from the game (bozja and eureka are still in the game last i checked). Meaningless grinds like 60 HW fates or 15 syrcus tower runs got axed from the design philosophy. You can still do 60 HW fates if you find that fun. It's just not part of the relic grind anymore.