Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
Unless you already have the gear, to survive the double tankbusters, PLD must give their buddy Intervention, receive their buddy's skill (Heart of Corundum, Nascent Flash, etc), and use Sheltron. In addition to Rampart or Sentinel (possibly both, if we're talking about crafted ilvls.) This means their buddy doesn't have their own defensive skill (it has to be given to the PLD), which is why you have to use Intervention. The reason for all of this is because you can't block dots, and Abyssos brought in a heavy dot with each tankbuster.

Technically, you could just yell healers adjust and the healers could probably handle it, but this would probably involve some GCD healing, and that's a raid DPS loss. Meanwhile, you can do the above and no DPS is lost. I think PLD is okay once they already have that raid gear, but if you're progging, you either force your healers to sacrifice DPS or you have to stock 100 gauge for the dual tankbusters.

FWIW, PLD is also quite weak in DSR. The friends I watched were running GNB/WAR, so I don't have any... secondhand? experience here, but from what I've heard, PLD struggles a lot in certain phases while the other tanks are completely fine. This, on top of having very low DPS.
Ok so other tanks in the same situation who don't have the benefit of intervention seem to be perfectly fine taking tank double busters, what's exclusive about PLD that if they dont use intervention (when any other tank would at most use something like Oblation, a skill only Drk has), that the other tank wouldn't "survive" Also, if your Gunbreaker uses Heart of corumdum on you or your warrior uses flash, then you could likely sentinel and intervention them without having to store up gauge, acting as if the PLD "has" to save up to 100 in every instance of a fight makes no sense when you have so many options where you don't have to use intervention all the time.

If Paladin was the only Job that can use its short cd on themselves and their co-tank, otherwise the healers would have a "major dps loss" PLD would all of a sudden become a must pick, but no they balance the fights not around PLD's unique trait of being able to store up to 100 gauge, using it on both is likely "Optimal" but when you're at the stage of being optimal, you tend to know when a duel tank buster is coming... I really don't see what even point you're trying to make here.

PLD does struggle, the Issues aren't clemency or oath gauge, it stems from a ton of Issues, Pretty sure theirs stuns in the latest ultimate that holy shelltron just doesn't block for one, They're the only tank lacking any personal defensive or anything equal to a a "small 60 second, Such as Oblation, aurora, equilibrium", They have some Jank and personal things that could be buffed, Having two raid wides on paper is good but I find passage of arms very situational and DV can be more clunky opposed to shake it off.