Let's redefine "damage taxes"

[CKNovel]

Swing and a miss. See what you're actually doing is a combination of two fallacies, putting words in my mouth, and strawmanning.

You're the one putting words in my mouth, I never claimed "MCH is harder than RDM", that's hypocritical.
Strawman argument is taking argument out of context to create a new idea, I merely applied your logic to the context which is the context to start with.

None of those, I just argued your logic was flawed. I admit the debate is starting to get aimed at individuals and should stop.
Running is harder than walking it's technically true as running requires more resources but you can't compare those to rotations.
Walking and running remains the very same processes but at different speed. Your argument is based on technicality.

Difficulty remains subjective.
Sorry, but the subjectivity of difficulty is actually a fact. It can be shared among large groups of player but will never be the same for all.
You're the one who have yet to back up difficulty isn't subjective.

even melee have some downtime here and there like on KBs you have to take, e.g. Impact

This isn't the positionals argument, but we're very close to my prediction.
If you think missing a GCD is what makes a melee difficult, we went back full circle. I have nothing more to say.

I wish you good luck out there.

[FireMage]

Running is harder than walking it's true but you can't compare those to rotations.

Difficulty remains subjective.

I love how you still say this, yet acknowledge in the sentence prior that it's not actually true. Basically just confirmed you're trolling at this point

[Hanayumi]

At this point they should just even out all jobs within their respective roles, then slap a passive dps increase on selfish jobs while taxing jobs that buff the damage of party. I personally dont think rez, defensive buffs, and such really matter all that much since all jobs have something now. And job "difficultly" shouldnt really matter either as a good number of folks enjoy complex jobs over the simple ones while some folks cant physically even deal with complex jobs...

[FireMage]

At this point they should just even out all jobs within their respective roles, then slap a passive dps increase on selfish jobs while taxing jobs that buff the damage of party. I personally dont think rez, defensive buffs, and such really matter all that much since all jobs have something now. And job "difficultly" shouldnt really matter either as a good number of folks enjoy complex jobs over the simple ones while some folks cant physically even deal with complex jobs...

And? Not everything needs to be accessible

[Mithron]

I don't care about FFXI. This is FFXIV where DAMAGE matters. I find extremely absurd you saying RDM has tons of raid buffs. RDM has only two buffs which is Embolden(offense) and Magick Barrier(defense). PERIOD. MNK has the same quantity of buffs which is Mantra(defense) and Brotherhood(offense). "Ohhh but RDM has Verraise" Verraise isnt an utility at all because it's a DPS loss and RDM is a DPS! I agree Verraise is great for progging but that's only it because for a clear party is useless where you need that DPS check and sometimes need all players alive to resolve some mechs. It just doesn't make any sense RDM doing less dmg than SMN even when not using Verraise.

I'm not saying RDM DOES have tons of raid damage buffs. I'm saying they should. I don't know how Embolden compares to Searing Light, but it should be much better while SMN and RDM have very close rDPS but SMN has better aDPS. That way, all DPS contribute overall to total damage the same, because if RDM's support DPS should be better than SMN's, they even out in personal DPS. The core identity of RDM should be "I play RDM with the intention of being a support DPS" similar to BRD and DNC.

I do not believe defensive and mitigation utility should affect DPS as DPS jobs. Leave that for the tanks.

[FireMage]

I'm not saying RDM DOES have tons of raid damage buffs. I'm saying they should. I don't know how Embolden compares to Searing Light, but it should be much better while SMN and RDM have very close rDPS but SMN has better aDPS. That way, all DPS contribute overall to total damage the same, because if RDM's support DPS should be better than SMN's, they even out in personal DPS. The core identity of RDM should be "I play RDM with the intention of being a support DPS" similar to BRD and DNC.

I do not believe defensive and mitigation utility should affect DPS as DPS jobs. Leave that for the tanks.

There is no such thing as support DPS. Leave that for XI

[Mithron]

There is no such thing as support DPS. Leave that for XI

XIV still by definition has support DPS. BRD and DNC are most definitely support DPS. Yes, they should still out DPS tanks and healers, I'm okay with that (even though I loved HW and out DPSing as a tank sometimes). Your main job is to do damage, but you still do less personal damage in favor of buffing everyone else's, while totaling the same overall DPS contribution. "Dismissed."

[Arguscbf]

There is no such thing as support DPS. Leave that for XI

THIS!
I started commenting on this forum after reading lots of absurd comments about RDM. I mean, why say such things if you don't play with the class? At least, ppl should know how it works before commenting things around here...

[FireMage]

XIV still by definition has support DPS.

No, it does not. The classifications for DPS are Melee, Physical Ranged, and Magical Ranged. This is a FACT. You have no power to dismiss, when you are consistently wrong

[Ivtrix]

I swear it is amusing to watch this guy continually double, triple, quadruple down on gargantuanly bad takes.