To Tanks Who only pull One Mob at a Time......

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Is there some reason every instance needs to go a 10000 miles an hour? if so what is it? I mean it, some of these instances, especially the later ones, are beautiful and a lot to see, appreciate the artwork, the music...so why do we need to GOGOGOGGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGGOGO...why?

You know what's a great feature they added in SHB that lets people explore an instance and appreciate all the fine details, music, etc at their leisure without being a hindrance to their party by slowing it down?

Explorer mode. Now compatible with all but ARR's dungeons for your slow delectation!

I have an old axiom of my own "Dont do it fast, do it right", fast does NOT mean better.

That axiom would hold actual weight if doing it fast wasn't so hilariously easy that its baffling why anyone wouldn't do it.

Tank: cycle CDs, hit aoe button, occasionally wakeup to move out of AoEs. :ZZZ:
Healer: Weave your OGCD heals in, hit your AoE button. :ZZZ:
Healer (SCH) alt strat: Literally afk in low level dungeons because fairy can heal the entire dungeon with you never hitting a single physick.
Dps: hit your AoE buttons. :ZZZ:

There's basically only one situation when taking it slow should even remotely be an option, and that's if the healer &/or tank are new to an instance or if the majority wants to go slow. And if you happen to be a WAR who has access to Bloodwhetting, then the healer is nullified from the equation anyway.

[Jeeqbit]

Why should the tank, 1/4 of the entire party decide the pace of the dungeon?

Because it's the tank's job to decide the pace of the dungeon. Just like the DPS can decide the pace that the enemies are killed by single-targeting. The healer's job is just to heal come what may.

[Izar_Chillen]

Because it's the tank's job to decide the pace of the dungeon.

Says who?

A tank is there to soak the damage , with mits and self heals


They are 1/4th of a team

Get over yourself

[MintnHoney]

The healer's job is just to heal come what may.

Nah, as of Endwalker, you've all got this. I can hang back and do my real job.
House decorating and real estate operations.

[Payadopa]

If there are 4 sets of mobs before each boss, split between 1 wall and it takes 2 minutes for DF players to aoe each of them down, then it would take 4 minutes before each boss with big pulls and 8 minutes before each boss with small pulls. Multiply that by 3 and you get 12 minutes and 24 minutes respectively. It stands to reason that if you spend twice as long killing mobs then the dungeon run is almost twice as long too.

My runs used to be 30-40 minutes and became 16 minutes when I started pulling more. When I did a dungeon a while ago that normally takes me 16 minutes as a tank, it took twice as long because we got a tank that was doing small pulls and it wasted enough time that we didn't do the second roulette that was planned.

This is ridiculous. I don't play with a stopwatch.

[Bunnycake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ose_your_role/

Time for some popcorn.

Edited: Nvm OP deleted for being cocky

[IkaraGreydancer]

I'd be willing to bet the same people trying to speed through everything are the same ones who complain about not having anything to do in game. Speed being "the standard" will only keep dungeons in the state that they are and keep the devs away from changing them up. Folks claim they want branching dungeons that are unique but also just want to brute force speed them all. Makes no sense

[Izar_Chillen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ose_your_role/

Time for some popcorn.

Edited: Nvm OP deleted for being cocky

Reveddit to the rescue


https://www.reveddit.com/v/ffxiv/com...ose_your_role/


Shame REVEDDIT doesn't show the deleted OP just the remining comments they left up. It was mega cringe worthy and you could tell they were expecting lots of allies from mainsub to rally to their BS but they got rightly roasted

[Jeeqbit]

Says who?

A tank is there to soak the damage , with mits and self heals

They are 1/4th of a team

Get over yourself

And they can only soak the damage with mits and self heals if they pull enemies. It stands to reason that they have to navigate to those enemies first. It's generally accepted that a tank pulls those enemies because if someone else does, the enemies will probably kill them. So we have established that it is the tank's job to navigate to the enemies and that it is also the tank's job to pull them. Saying the tank should ask permission to do their job is like saying a healer should ask permission to heal or that a DPS should ask permission to DPS.

This is ridiculous. I don't play with a stopwatch.

I don't either. I enable timestamps in my chatbox so I can see when the run started and ended.

[Izar_Chillen]

And they can only soak the damage with mits and self heals if they pull enemies. It stands to reason that they have to navigate to those enemies first. It's generally accepted that a tank pulls those enemies because if someone else does, the enemies will probably kill them. So we have established that it is the tank's job to navigate to the enemies and that it is also the tank's job to pull them. Saying the tank should ask permission to do their job is like saying a healer should ask permission to heal or that a DPS should ask permission to DPS.

A competent group run together , decent dps will know when a tank will land its aoe and then begin to dps . a healer that's competent will pre shield , or regen , the tank will then pop a mit if needed straight away or continue to use aoe into special moves more mits or heals as will the dps for their part as will the healer for theirs

No one is the leader and the pace should be set by the party for both reasons, all want to go quick because they are capable and can manage it , and paces should be adjusted if competent players notice their are some weak links , either from inexperience or skill level and there's nothing wrong with players that are a bit slower not all can be hot on the keys/pad . The lazys that zero dps as a healer or no aoe as a dps can sod right off mind.