Am i really the only one that dislike Yoshi-P ?

[aveyond-dreams]

No one is above criticism. However the FFXIV playerbase may disagree.

Over the years I have been told to "respect their creative vision" in regards to =

Turning Blue Mage into a limited job despite its FFXI predecessor being able to participate in the same content as any other job, and no such limitations being imposed on the other jack of all trades, Red Mage.

Introducing gender-locked races in *2019* with an objectively more limited male variant that to this day remains a source of controversy.

The disastrous implementation of Eureka's first 2 zones, which was eventually remedied to some degree in their handling of Bozja.

Inexplicable job changes and the continued refusal to address the concerns surrounding healer gameplay in this game.

The continued mismanagement of my favourite job, Summoner.

The lack of long hair, beards, and other standard customization options for character creation.

His handling of themes in Endwalker, which is another matter so complex that it cannot be addressed here.

Limitations on glamour that have plagued the game since the implementation of the system.

Shall I go on? Or could we please have our feedback actually be listened to and addressed. With how often this game's players tell those of us who voice criticism to take a break or play something else, they cannot hope to be surprised if one day enough people collectively take their advice and leave for greener pastures.

Endwalker however has managed to cause and exacerbate more issues in the past 7 months than this game has in 9 years. Something is clearly amiss, and we need for this game's problems to be tackled and taken seriously instead of in a dismissive or joking manner.

[Adamantini]

(...)Shall I go on? Or could we please have our feedback actually be listened to and addressed. With how often this game's players tell those of us who voice criticism to take a break or play something else, they cannot hope to be surprised if one day enough people collectively take their advice and leave for greener pastures.

Endwalker however has managed to cause and exacerbate more issues in the past 7 months than this game has in 9 years. Something is clearly amiss, and we need for this game's problems to be tackled and taken seriously instead of in a dismissive or joking manner.

I can continue here for you:

Old races having cropped racial features such as tails and ears (miqo'te and au'ra)

2019 races having animal ears but not receiving animation like the miqo'te, a race made 9(?) years ago.

Seeing your character turn into a Hyur during enshroud (ears, tails, horns, everything is taken away from the characters). As I remember seeing on this forum, Yosh P himself said that each race would have its own enshroud.

Limited inventory, even though it's a paid game (and when I say inventory, I mean in general, glammour dresser included. With each expansion, gears, crafting materials, hooks, among other items, are added to the game, and we don't have enough space for that.

Mogstation items being sold in a way that you can't just buy clothe, hat, or hair separated, even if you belong to a race that can't wear these hats and hair

[Kolsykol]

the customer is no longer respected and listened to

Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.
If you go into a restaurant and behave the way people do on this forum you'd get thrown out and banned from the restaurant.
If someone filmed it too you'd be on Youtube and people would be laughing at you about what a hysterical '' Karen '' you are.

Yoshi-P isn't your personal psychiatrist, it's not unfair for him to not want to deal with people who behave like children and throw enormous temper-tantrum about even the most minor of things.
If I had people read shit into every single word that came out my mouth the way people did with Yoshi-P too I'd go insane, I don't think people really understand the level of stress that it is to have thousands of people behave the way people do towards you.
It's not normal to be able to handle that and I don't think that anyone can, there's a reason why celebrities have mental breakdowns and shut themselves off from the outside world.


If you dislike someone for asking people to not behave like manchildren then it really says more about you than it does about him.

No one is above criticism. However the FFXIV playerbase may disagree.

No one is saying this, if you think this is just about criticism then you don't understand at all what the problem is and what the devs are talking about when they talk about this.
They literally ask for our criticism, beg for it even.
But that doesn't mean they want to be abused and have to spend all day every day reading through comments from people who spend 80-90% of their comments making personal attacks and just angrily venting like they just had a psychotic mental breakdown.
Or people who just refuse to listen to any explanation, there are a lot of things the devs want to do but simply can't they're not omnipotent wizards who can just press a button and then things happen.
If they explain how something works and why things aren't possible then that should be respected.
Behaving like a child about it doesn't change anything it just makes people look bad and make the devs not want to talk to us.

However, he has a very bad habit of blowing off criticism and making excuses for why things can't or shouldn't be done.

How do you know it's '' excuses ''?
People went hysterical on this forum for weeks about the '' housing crisis '' without even understanding what the problem with the bug was, people very confidently spread misinformation about it based solely on wild speculations that ended up being totally wrong.
Yoshi-P came out and in great detail explained exactly what the problem was which is something that normally doesn't happen with other games.
Did people apologize and stop spreading the misinformation?
Nope.

I don't think that 99% of people here are in any position to make some kind of a judgement about what is and isn't possible, we don't have access to the information nor the technical know-how to be able to make that judgement.
Most people here will just believe that something is simple when it isn't and then refuse to accept what anyone tells them.
Just because you WANT something to be easy and possible doesn't mean that it is and just because a modder for example can mod something into the game doesn't mean that it's the same thing as implementing it server-side ( not to mention most of it is still a buggy mess too ).

"Nah, it's all good over here. Ya'll are crazy. One sec, let me buff BLM so I can dominate in PvP!"

-Yoshi P

In fairness, what MMO is more balanced than FFXIV?
The fact that people hyperfocus on this thing kinda speaks volume, it's such a minor issue by comparison and it also kinda gets into the issue where people assume intent and some kind of weird spite on Yoshi-P's end.
Every little minor issue in this game gets people going ballistic and come up with conspiracy theories about how evil the devs are it's ridiculous.
People read WAY too much into EVERYTHING because it suits what they want to feel because they want to upset and cause drama.

Money. A lot of the requests are too expensive for their tiny budget.

And yes, the game has been making more money than ever, but I'd bet only a small fraction is reinvested towards it.

How can you look at all the upcoming content and overhauls and say this...
Just wtf.
We're getting some of the biggest content dumps and largest overhauls we've ever had...

Again, people read WAY too much into everything because it fits what they want to believe.
And people want there to be some kind of conspiracy and drama.

[Vahlnir]

In fairness, what MMO is more balanced than FFXIV?
The fact that people hyperfocus on this thing kinda speaks volume, it's such a minor issue by comparison and it also kinda gets into the issue where people assume intent and some kind of weird spite on Yoshi-P's end.
Every little minor issue in this game gets people going ballistic and come up with conspiracy theories about how evil the devs are it's ridiculous.

FF XIV is extremely well balanced for the most part, and I love that, but you also have to consider the timing of certain things. When you've got a patch that fumbles minor and major patch features, one right after another, that tends to turn some heads. Then when PvP is extremely unbalanced (still is, really, but I don't expect that to last long) he decides to buff BLM conveniently and obscenely as he's trying the new mode? Yeah, that's not a coincidence. I don't really fault him for that. Every developer on the planet is going to play favorites in some way. In WoW, they tend to buff Mage a lot, along with a select few other classes, while others are left to rot. Again though, it was the timing. When you're already taking some heat for other things, there's no good reason to add fuel to the dumpster fire. He owned up to it immediately though, so I can respect that a little bit. If the reaction wasn't severe or if it was negligible at best, he wouldn't have felt the need to respond at all, but apparently a lot of people viewed that as biased job tuning, and I doubt NA was the only place they heard it from. Honestly, I'm surprised when I hear that they do read our posts.

[Rufalus]

I like Yoshida a lot as a person. He seems to really care about the fans and he works harder than he needs to. If people think he is not humble then they are not interpreting his comments correctly, or the translations of them.

I don't like his style of directing an mmo much because almost all of the resources go into repetition of formulaic content until the excitement has been wrought out. Horrible balance of samey iterative stuff vs new ideas.

[Midareyukki]

Jesus Christ

- "Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.", true but at the same time there's a balance to be struck between the company, the product and the guy consuming the product. And expecting people to just constantly take lower and lower quality without complaint is ludicrous. And when the consumer complains, you might want to look into the complaint. Ignoring it doesn't really help. Wanna know how we know this? 1.0 EXISTED. I wonder why it no longer does... hmm, must have been a fluke of time. Square TOTALLY wasn't scared of having a mainline title fail as tremendously as it was about to.
- A lot of people say he's above criticism just because he saved the game from the 1.0 hellhole. Maybe take a closer look at the fanbase you're in. In fact, just look at page 1, there's one such comment literally right there!
- "How do you know it's excuses"? idk sis, because when he said "it's too hard" to Hrothgar hairstyles rather than the actual reason for why they're not doing hairs with ears, people dissected it for him? He could have said literally anything else, and it'd have been far better than "it's too hard". It's not hard, he has the time and he has the resources, he's not allocating them at all. This game is, by his own words, following a very specific structure where stuff is planned out in phases way before anything's even done. You cannot tell me he couldn't have found the time and resources to pull it off when amateurs did so in a single day. If there ARE reasons, then he should say so. But claiming it to be hard? That's an excuse.
- MMO Balance works in different ways all across eachother, and there's a whole context to why FF14 is this balanced. With a lot of people even going so far as to say that the exchange for balance was novelty and uniqueness
- Cute you'd care for the content and overhauls, but a) do we need quantity or quality? You know what, just ask the healers who "overreacted" when he told them to go play Ultimate, and b) if past overhauls are anything to go by, that doesn't exactly translate into something worth being excited over. Just ask SAM mains, people who actually do have high parses in their class (something you actually need attention and care about) and said their piece about it, only to be ignored.

...ok so how much are you clutching that White Knight job stone, girlie? I think it's time to let it go, take a breather, it's good for you.

Like, okay I get it, it's not that bad. Which, sure, it isn't. There IS a lot to praise the devs and the game over. But it's also not all fragrant roses and rainbows, you need to wake the hell up and admit when enough is enough. Your Dev Thirst is honestly just going to get in the way.

[Vahlnir]

- "Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.", true but at the same time there's a balance to be struck between the company, the product and the guy consuming the product. And expecting people to just constantly take lower and lower quality without complaint is ludicrous. And when the consumer complains, you might want to look into the complaint. Ignoring it doesn't really help. Wanna know how we know this? 1.0 EXISTED. I wonder why it no longer does... hmm, must have been a fluke of time. Square TOTALLY wasn't scared of having a mainline title fail as tremendously as it was about to.
- A lot of people say he's above criticism just because he saved the game from the 1.0 hellhole. Maybe take a closer look at the fanbase you're in. In fact, just look at page 1, there's one such comment literally right there!
- "How do you know it's excuses"? idk sis, because when he said "it's too hard" to Hrothgar hairstyles rather than the actual reason for why they're not doing hairs with ears, people dissected it for him? He could have said literally anything else, and it'd have been far better than "it's too hard". It's not hard, he has the time and he has the resources, he's not allocating them at all. This game is, by his own words, following a very specific structure where stuff is planned out in phases way before anything's even done. You cannot tell me he couldn't have found the time and resources to pull it off when amateurs did so in a single day. If there ARE reasons, then he should say so. But claiming it to be hard? That's an excuse.
- MMO Balance works in different ways all across eachother, and there's a whole context to why FF14 is this balanced. With a lot of people even going so far as to say that the exchange for balance was novelty and uniqueness
- Cute you'd care for the content and overhauls, but a) do we need quantity or quality? You know what, just ask the healers who "overreacted" when he told them to go play Ultimate, and b) if past overhauls are anything to go by, that doesn't exactly translate into something worth being excited over. Just ask SAM mains, people who actually do have high parses in their class (something you actually need attention and care about) and said their piece about it, only to be ignored.

...ok so how much are you clutching that White Knight job stone, girlie? I think it's time to let it go, take a breather, it's good for you.

Like, okay I get it, it's not that bad. Which, sure, it isn't. There IS a lot to praise the devs and the game over. But it's also not all fragrant roses and rainbows, you need to wake the hell up and admit when enough is enough. Your Dev Thirst is honestly just going to get in the way.

A bit harsh in places, though not entirely undeserved, but this is basically how I feel about SE the FF XIV team right now. They get a lot of things right, which makes their failures that much more surprising. I know they can do better, and that's what I want from them. To do better.

[Midareyukki]

A bit harsh in places, though not entirely undeserved, but this is basically how I feel about SE the FF XIV team right now. They get a lot of things right, which makes their failures that much more surprising. I know they can do better, and that's what I want from them. To do better.

Is it harsh? If so, GOOD. I just have zero patience for this community. People cling to the devs like children, it's embarrassing! Just admit they aren't the sweet angels y'all wish they were and move on.

I do like this dev team and I do know when to sing it praises. There is A LOT of content I enjoy to this day, and though I don't fully agree with the direction taken with the plot, it still got to me. Because I can take something that's very clearly flawed and still enjoy it. Otherwise I wouldn't be playing the race I play.

But holy hell, after seeing what doing it once will do, how far people will stretch it, and how hard the community slaps you for saying one piece of negative criticism toward the devs? I'm not gonna do it anytime soon.

People just need to wake up from that honeymoon phase and admit "Okay, defending the devs after all these things HAVE happened and promptly deny them isn't good". Not for they themselves, for the dev team, for the product, and it's disrespectful for those impacted by those situations. Because even if you enjoy the game and would still die hard for the devs, it's not fair that your experience gets handwaved just because White Knight over there decides to ignore basic logic and sanity just to cling to this image that the devs can do no harm.

[Deveryn]

I would like to know how some of the things I spelled out on the first page are unreasonable expectations.

I skipped it and opted to leave a number of posts alone, but since you ask...

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You're clearly in the minority when it comes to these cosmetic options.

Eureka: Past a certain point, you can't expect a developer to just go back and redo something like that. It still functions well enough. It's not worth going back there right now just because a few people aren't happy with something about it. People are still progging through and getting their relics and clearing BA.

Job balance is tricky business and I would say again that you likely fall in the minority vs. those that may have pushed for certain things. There is also this preparation they're getting into for the future of the game.

They can listen to just about everything, but not everything has to be addressed. They certainly don't have to address whatever long list of stuff that is constantly being looked at for updates. That would drag the LL on for too long. Looking at these forums though, it doesn't look like there's much to pick out sometimes. People can't or (more accurately) don't seem to come together on much.

People hate to see it mentioned, but there's clearly a schedule they've been trying to stick to. Since Yoshi-P came on board, he got the team producing content on such a consistent basis and the communication has been quite good, actually. I've never seen anyone spend that much time talking to people about what's ahead and to even bring in a translator from time to time and answer question.

They have their schedule and they're trying to move forward, but oh... hang on a few people want this time consuming overhaul done... they're supposed to work that into what they're doing? Sometimes, if there's enough support for something, they'll make an effort. It took 3 years to go from one viera gender to two.


I get that people want to be heard and all that. Some may have a stronger feeling with what goes on in the world, but some things are more beyond your control or influence. This is not a democracy. It's a service we pay for. Not everything will change in our favor. They're not going to be able to satisfy every need.

and I'll stop there as it's ultimately not worth responding to everyone or giving everyone a full response. ya'll beg for people to listen to you but you can't do it yourselves. I don't know how many times I've responded to things and people are just like "well you don't know how to play". I'm so aware of the hypocrisy.

[MintnHoney]

You're clearly in the minority when it comes to these cosmetic options.

Long hair, beards... yup. Very few people want either of these. Absolutely. In fact, almost no one has brought either of these up at all, ever, in the history of forever.
Hair length and beards are social constructs, like the Boogeyman and Michael Jackson.