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    Used to like him before but after years of him saying one thing and doing another(often), I just can't trust him. He has a tendency to always use his whole "due to server limitations" excuse to not add things when he has shown that's not always true. Also ignores the players from what I seen, at least NA because he still believes there isn't a ping issue with ff14 for NA despite he was testing via from jp to the jp servers..
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    It really won't kill you to be polite.
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  3. #53
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCoqui View Post
    Used to like him before but after years of him saying one thing and doing another(often), I just can't trust him. He has a tendency to always use his whole "due to server limitations" excuse to not add things when he has shown that's not always true. Also ignores the players from what I seen, at least NA because he still believes there isn't a ping issue with ff14 for NA despite he was testing via from jp to the jp servers..
    "Nah, it's all good over here. Ya'll are crazy. One sec, let me buff BLM so I can dominate in PvP!"

    -Yoshi P

    In his defense though, NA is a little crazy for various reasons. Still not a valid excuse to largely ignore us though. lol We have some wonderful ideas every now and then that get lost in the chaos, and while our feedback can be a bit...crass at points, I do feel that it should be taken into account a bit more as well depending on the subject. Sometimes we're mad over nothing, but sometimes we've got every right to be. Some actual communication would go a long way toward calming people down. We've got reps that we never hear from around here, and that is an issue in and of itself.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 07-15-2022 at 11:21 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanWenqing View Post
    the customer is no longer respected and listened to
    Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.
    If you go into a restaurant and behave the way people do on this forum you'd get thrown out and banned from the restaurant.
    If someone filmed it too you'd be on Youtube and people would be laughing at you about what a hysterical '' Karen '' you are.

    Yoshi-P isn't your personal psychiatrist, it's not unfair for him to not want to deal with people who behave like children and throw enormous temper-tantrum about even the most minor of things.
    If I had people read shit into every single word that came out my mouth the way people did with Yoshi-P too I'd go insane, I don't think people really understand the level of stress that it is to have thousands of people behave the way people do towards you.
    It's not normal to be able to handle that and I don't think that anyone can, there's a reason why celebrities have mental breakdowns and shut themselves off from the outside world.


    If you dislike someone for asking people to not behave like manchildren then it really says more about you than it does about him.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    No one is above criticism. However the FFXIV playerbase may disagree.
    No one is saying this, if you think this is just about criticism then you don't understand at all what the problem is and what the devs are talking about when they talk about this.
    They literally ask for our criticism, beg for it even.
    But that doesn't mean they want to be abused and have to spend all day every day reading through comments from people who spend 80-90% of their comments making personal attacks and just angrily venting like they just had a psychotic mental breakdown.
    Or people who just refuse to listen to any explanation, there are a lot of things the devs want to do but simply can't they're not omnipotent wizards who can just press a button and then things happen.
    If they explain how something works and why things aren't possible then that should be respected.
    Behaving like a child about it doesn't change anything it just makes people look bad and make the devs not want to talk to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    However, he has a very bad habit of blowing off criticism and making excuses for why things can't or shouldn't be done.
    How do you know it's '' excuses ''?
    People went hysterical on this forum for weeks about the '' housing crisis '' without even understanding what the problem with the bug was, people very confidently spread misinformation about it based solely on wild speculations that ended up being totally wrong.
    Yoshi-P came out and in great detail explained exactly what the problem was which is something that normally doesn't happen with other games.
    Did people apologize and stop spreading the misinformation?
    Nope.

    I don't think that 99% of people here are in any position to make some kind of a judgement about what is and isn't possible, we don't have access to the information nor the technical know-how to be able to make that judgement.
    Most people here will just believe that something is simple when it isn't and then refuse to accept what anyone tells them.
    Just because you WANT something to be easy and possible doesn't mean that it is and just because a modder for example can mod something into the game doesn't mean that it's the same thing as implementing it server-side ( not to mention most of it is still a buggy mess too ).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    "Nah, it's all good over here. Ya'll are crazy. One sec, let me buff BLM so I can dominate in PvP!"

    -Yoshi P
    In fairness, what MMO is more balanced than FFXIV?
    The fact that people hyperfocus on this thing kinda speaks volume, it's such a minor issue by comparison and it also kinda gets into the issue where people assume intent and some kind of weird spite on Yoshi-P's end.
    Every little minor issue in this game gets people going ballistic and come up with conspiracy theories about how evil the devs are it's ridiculous.
    People read WAY too much into EVERYTHING because it suits what they want to feel because they want to upset and cause drama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    Money. A lot of the requests are too expensive for their tiny budget.

    And yes, the game has been making more money than ever, but I'd bet only a small fraction is reinvested towards it.
    How can you look at all the upcoming content and overhauls and say this...
    Just wtf.
    We're getting some of the biggest content dumps and largest overhauls we've ever had...

    Again, people read WAY too much into everything because it fits what they want to believe.
    And people want there to be some kind of conspiracy and drama.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 07-15-2022 at 11:31 AM.

  5. #55
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    There are people who once considered asking for Viera and Hrothgar to be able to use normal hairs the same as everyone else a step too far, forgive me but the bar of quality has to be set higher than that or else we get situations precisely like the one that ended up occurring. Especially in the case of Hrothgar.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There are people who once considered asking for Viera and Hrothgar to be able to use normal hairs the same as everyone else a step too far, forgive me but the bar of quality has to be set higher than that or else we get situations precisely like the one that ended up occurring. Especially in the case of Hrothgar.
    To be fair, we were told that Viera and Hrothgar would get their own unique hairstyles all the way back in 2019. Apparently, that plan has changed. Yoshi P can feign ignorance all he wants, but he said what he said, and now he has to deal with the fallout over going back on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    In fairness, what MMO is more balanced than FFXIV?
    The fact that people hyperfocus on this thing kinda speaks volume, it's such a minor issue by comparison and it also kinda gets into the issue where people assume intent and some kind of weird spite on Yoshi-P's end.
    Every little minor issue in this game gets people going ballistic and come up with conspiracy theories about how evil the devs are it's ridiculous.
    FF XIV is extremely well balanced for the most part, and I love that, but you also have to consider the timing of certain things. When you've got a patch that fumbles minor and major patch features, one right after another, that tends to turn some heads. Then when PvP is extremely unbalanced (still is, really, but I don't expect that to last long) he decides to buff BLM conveniently and obscenely as he's trying the new mode? Yeah, that's not a coincidence. I don't really fault him for that. Every developer on the planet is going to play favorites in some way. In WoW, they tend to buff Mage a lot, along with a select few other classes, while others are left to rot. Again though, it was the timing. When you're already taking some heat for other things, there's no good reason to add fuel to the dumpster fire. He owned up to it immediately though, so I can respect that a little bit. If the reaction wasn't severe or if it was negligible at best, he wouldn't have felt the need to respond at all, but apparently a lot of people viewed that as biased job tuning, and I doubt NA was the only place they heard it from. Honestly, I'm surprised when I hear that they do read our posts.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 07-15-2022 at 11:47 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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  9. #58
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    I like Yoshida a lot as a person. He seems to really care about the fans and he works harder than he needs to. If people think he is not humble then they are not interpreting his comments correctly, or the translations of them.

    I don't like his style of directing an mmo much because almost all of the resources go into repetition of formulaic content until the excitement has been wrought out. Horrible balance of samey iterative stuff vs new ideas.
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  10. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Indeed. Similar to how you have as Yoshi has made multiple statements for the community to be kind and courteous to each other, and has expressed his concern in several LLs about toxicity within the community.

    The problem isn't the dev team is soft. The problem is the community completely disregards that the devs are human beings.

    Stop with this nonsense about not being able to criticize the game. You just did and still have an active sub, do you not? Can still log in, hop in a raid, toss up a new decoration in your house or apartment? Yeah?

    So what are you on about? Something about wanting to chastise the devs without consequence? Is that right? Or am I twisting words?
    You realize that I said the same same exact thing you just did right? Or did you not read my post above this one? Your response to me is confusing because 1. You said I just criticized the game? Show me where please? Lol and 2. I never said I want to chastise the devs. You just put quite the amount of statements I never said into my mouth.

    Edit: You should really read an entire thread before posting replies like these that make you look like a fool. If you couldn't grasp the fact that I said yoshi saying be kind doesn't mean you can't citique the game, when I said it clear as day. Then yes you have indeed twisted my words, so what are YOU on about?
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    Last edited by SweetestLily; 07-15-2022 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Jesus Christ
    - "Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.", true but at the same time there's a balance to be struck between the company, the product and the guy consuming the product. And expecting people to just constantly take lower and lower quality without complaint is ludicrous. And when the consumer complains, you might want to look into the complaint. Ignoring it doesn't really help. Wanna know how we know this? 1.0 EXISTED. I wonder why it no longer does... hmm, must have been a fluke of time. Square TOTALLY wasn't scared of having a mainline title fail as tremendously as it was about to.
    - A lot of people say he's above criticism just because he saved the game from the 1.0 hellhole. Maybe take a closer look at the fanbase you're in. In fact, just look at page 1, there's one such comment literally right there!
    - "How do you know it's excuses"? idk sis, because when he said "it's too hard" to Hrothgar hairstyles rather than the actual reason for why they're not doing hairs with ears, people dissected it for him? He could have said literally anything else, and it'd have been far better than "it's too hard". It's not hard, he has the time and he has the resources, he's not allocating them at all. This game is, by his own words, following a very specific structure where stuff is planned out in phases way before anything's even done. You cannot tell me he couldn't have found the time and resources to pull it off when amateurs did so in a single day. If there ARE reasons, then he should say so. But claiming it to be hard? That's an excuse.
    - MMO Balance works in different ways all across eachother, and there's a whole context to why FF14 is this balanced. With a lot of people even going so far as to say that the exchange for balance was novelty and uniqueness
    - Cute you'd care for the content and overhauls, but a) do we need quantity or quality? You know what, just ask the healers who "overreacted" when he told them to go play Ultimate, and b) if past overhauls are anything to go by, that doesn't exactly translate into something worth being excited over. Just ask SAM mains, people who actually do have high parses in their class (something you actually need attention and care about) and said their piece about it, only to be ignored.

    ...ok so how much are you clutching that White Knight job stone, girlie? I think it's time to let it go, take a breather, it's good for you.

    Like, okay I get it, it's not that bad. Which, sure, it isn't. There IS a lot to praise the devs and the game over. But it's also not all fragrant roses and rainbows, you need to wake the hell up and admit when enough is enough. Your Dev Thirst is honestly just going to get in the way.
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