Am i really the only one that dislike Yoshi-P ?

[Vahlnir]

Used to like him before but after years of him saying one thing and doing another(often), I just can't trust him. He has a tendency to always use his whole "due to server limitations" excuse to not add things when he has shown that's not always true. Also ignores the players from what I seen, at least NA because he still believes there isn't a ping issue with ff14 for NA despite he was testing via from jp to the jp servers..

"Nah, it's all good over here. Ya'll are crazy. One sec, let me buff BLM so I can dominate in PvP!"

-Yoshi P

In his defense though, NA is a little crazy for various reasons. Still not a valid excuse to largely ignore us though. lol We have some wonderful ideas every now and then that get lost in the chaos, and while our feedback can be a bit...crass at points, I do feel that it should be taken into account a bit more as well depending on the subject. Sometimes we're mad over nothing, but sometimes we've got every right to be. Some actual communication would go a long way toward calming people down. We've got reps that we never hear from around here, and that is an issue in and of itself.

[Lauront]

"Nah, it's all good over here. Ya'll are crazy. One sec, let me buff BLM so I can dominate in PvP!"

-Yoshi P

In his defense though, NA is a little crazy for various reasons. Still not a valid excuse to largely ignore us though. lol We have some wonderful ideas every now and then that get lost in the chaos, and while our feedback can be a bit...crass at points, I do feel that it should be taken into account a bit more as well depending on the subject. Sometimes we're mad over nothing, but sometimes we've got every right to be. Some actual communication would go a long way toward calming people down. We've got reps that we never hear from around here, and that is an issue in and of itself.

At the end of the day, it's their forum. The moderation standards are their responsibility, and besides, there is a lot of well-worded feedback here. If they don't like how certain discussions are being conducted, time to moderate better and get more CM involvement. Besides, we know Yoshi is referring to certain incidents in Japan, which the white knight community on this side tries to twist into something specifically directed to the forum, even with Yoshi not being specific as to what he was referring to precisely when making these comments - at least the ones of which I'm aware. I'm all for being civil and respectful in delivering feedback to the devs, but let's please not pretend that moderation of this forum is anything but their responsibility. They're willing to wade into Twitter and Reddit, which can be as if not more hostile (moderation there helps conceal a lot of the crazy.) It is like you said though, at a certain point, if feedback is routinely ignored/dismissed (healing being a prominent topic on that front), it does sour the interactions.

It really won't kill you to be polite.

Much like it wouldn't kill you to stop sticking "whining" tags on everything you dislike, right?

The trouble is the customers think they're in such a majority when they're really not.

Is anyone truly a fierce defender or do they just see through the BS that people post? I think it's more of the latter. People just get defensive and yell "white knight".

I think it's more of a case of people seeing through the BS of the white knights, so the white knights try tar any criticism with the brush of the most extreme voices expressing criticism more than anything. At least Yoshi knows (once knew?) not to get fixated over who is a "majority" or not, because frankly, that isn't how addressing customer feedback in the real world works. Really, most of us are interested in discussing what we'd like to see improved, and not engage in interminable debates with people who try distract the discussion with the usual concern trolling over the behaviour of a tiny few, which should be cleaned up by moderation.