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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Nonsense
    I'm all for removing unnecessary skills on Tanks and DPS, so long as it doesn't compromise their ability to perform their job but since I'm primarily a healer main, I can't really give suggestions on those topics (although Six Sided Star and Anatman on MNK would be my 1st suggestion to go). I wouldn't put a Tank main in charge of DPS changes, a DPS main in charge of Healer changes and a Healer main in charge of Tank changes because that's doomed to end in disaster.

    I don't really see a point in half of the healer skills that we've gotten over the years.
    What's the point of Fey Blessing when it only heals for about as much as a Regen tic?
    What's the point of Solace and Rapture when Cure 2 and Medica already existed?
    What's the point of removing old skills like Divine Seal, only to reintroduce them again under a new coat of paint such as Temperance instead of just upgrading it like they've done with every version of Stone/Glare, Broil, Malefic, etc?

    As for the priceless thing, I don't believe that for a second. On the odd occasion I felt masochistic enough to do Roulettes on my PLD, I was more than capable of carrying groups long after the healer went down and it often didn't matter the roulette.
    Any dungeon content? Liberal use of Clemency on big hits kept DPS alive, on top of any utility/mitigation I could throw up to supplement was more than adequate.
    Normal Raids? Cleared every single Eden Raid with my PLD playing healer after both healers died on more than 1 occasion.
    Alliance Raid? Unless a fight has an enrage mechanic, not really a problem there either.

    A well played Tank can more than compensate for a Healer in 90% of content and I am NOT a great tank by any measure.

    The reason why we're not happy playing a healer is because we remember a time when there was more to do as a Healer. We had multiple DoTs to manage and a small DPS rotation between those DoTs, Cleric Stance and our Nuke. We had to actually manage MP in the past. We had to actually use our GCDs for more than just Filler Spam. We needed to shield prey mechanics. We needed to rotate Virus/Disable between Healers to make sure the party didn't die to a massive raid wide. Nothing of that has been retained so we went from having a solid workload that actually felt rewarding to pull off to having our job outsourced to Tanks/DPS roles and having the bare minimum to do.

    WE"RE BORED!!! It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    WE'RE BORED!!! It's that simple.
    I'm not bored with healing. Neither is my spouse.
    So I'm not sure who this "we" you claim to speak for is.
    Some of your fellow complainers here, sure.
    But the general population of subscribers that play healers? You can't claim that.
    Neither can I, but then, I'm not pretending to.

    So why am I not bored?
    It could be that I'm a bit more creative about using my kit than some people here. For example, there's apparently not a lot of healers that move into a boss's hitbox so they can hit the boss and the ads with their AoE. I didn't do that much back when I played a WHM (other than the usual triple-Holy on trash mobs), but SGE is a whole different beast.

    It could be other things too. For example, I was doing Final Steps of Faith the other day and one of the other DNC in the group was a pink elephant. Watching that elephant move as they made their attacks was the highlight of the fight; the swirl of my red varsity skirt was boring by comparison. My spouse, also on a DNC, thought so too.

    There's a lot of beauty to be found in this game, some of it in the most unlikely places.
    I appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
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    I lost my appreciation when they removed the fun from the game. I liked the multitasking healers used to have. If the best I have to look forward to is idiots in glamours (something I could do anyways) there's nothing left for me here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I lost my appreciation when they removed the fun from the game. I liked the multitasking healers used to have. If the best I have to look forward to is idiots in glamours (something I could do anyways) there's nothing left for me here.
    Do you think you'll be missed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Oh, and 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3 is just so much more exciting, right?
    What you seem oblivious to is that knowing the right DPS key to hit depends on the combat situation, and can change pretty quickly, even if you do spam the one you pick until the situation changes.
    Combat situation changing? In such a scripted PvE encounter? Seriously?

    Have you ever out-parsed good DPS on a trash pull?
    A ‘good DPS’ that you ‘out-parsed’ in trash pulls are probably not that ‘good’ at all Sure Healers do pretty good dps in AoE situations, but a ‘good DPS’ out-parsed by their healer? Seriously (1)?

    If so, where you bored by it?
    […]
    So why don't you ask questions like the above? Are you afraid of the answers?
    Majority of healers that you’ve replied in these threads can do way more than every ‘technical sounding’-situations that you’ve written, because it’s just that boring easy to achieve.

    Do you enjoy it? Yes? More power to you. Glad you’re enjoying it, for real.

    Now these folks does not have the same opinion as yours—they’re voicing out their thoughts & what possible ways to alleviate it without harming the lower denominators so that BOTH type of players can have fun. When you come over to these threads trying to argue questionably, proven objectively wrong, then try to take the higher ground via pedantries, expect a return of favor in kind in addition to the board's difficulties in taking your words seriously.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-01-2022 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    A ‘good DPS’ that you ‘out-parsed’ in trash pulls are probably not that ‘good’ at all Sure Healers do pretty good dps in AoE situations, but a ‘good DPS’ out-parsed by their healer? Seriously (1)?
    Do the numbers, smart boy. Dyskrasia is really lethal on large groups. You can do numbers, right? Or do you just take The Balance and Icy Veins on blind faith?

    Or better yet, TRY IT. It works for Art of War, too.

    Honestly, you people lack both imagination and math skills, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Do the numbers, smart boy. Dyskrasia is really lethal on large groups. You can do numbers, right? Or do you just take The Balance and Icy Veins on blind faith?

    Or better yet, TRY IT. It works for Art of War, too.

    Honestly, you people lack both imagination and math skills, don't you?
    Jokes on you, if it's DF contents I will almost always outDPS majority of pug DPSes as an ASTROLOGIAN in trash pulls. Even more so with other healers. But that's not because I'm -that good-. It just tells me the average DF folks I encounter are just not pressing buttons constantly & that is fine. This however, rarely happens if I run DFs with my DPS main friends or static folks who I knew personally to put in effort with what they're playing.

    I think you're the one who had too much faith in your 'trusted good DPS'
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-01-2022 at 01:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    People have admitted, recently in these forums, to being afraid of my "opinions."
    An accomplishment you'll never achieve.

    Bye!
    Being proud of being a psychopath isn't a hard accomplishment to achieve. Anyone can hold a gun towards a crowd of people and earn more fear than anything you can achieve.
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    No, you're just annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    People have admitted, recently in these forums, to being afraid of my "opinions."
    An accomplishment you'll never achieve.

    Bye!
    To be fair even I’m afraid I lose my last remaining brain cells that I have left from playing healer when I read your posts. I had too buy 2 new keyboard last expansion when I was a healer main because my 1 button broke spamming my dmg kit even as a astro.
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