Current EX trial completed without Healers

[Ixon]

This thread is a joke. You guys need to learn what we in the scientific field call an “outlier” is. Just because some random tryhard raiders can clear without a healer does not mean the other 90% of the game can. No one cares that you can meme comp while on voice chat, while with a perfect static for funsies and go “LOOK GET GUD healers r not needed.” Healing is the best this expansion it has ever been, simple but very active, broil feels rewarding but you constantly must be thinking so you can weave appropriately and predict. It’s the best of both worlds if you are not an outlier. Even average raiders use healers it’s the omega tryhard outlier ones who wanna cry about not needing a healer. Heads up people if the game was balanced around the 10% or even less tbh then it would be unplayable for the 90%. Stop getting upset that everything is too easy at your level that’s just what happens in games when you get better and better past what’s expected. Aka challenger players complaining about champion being balanced around platinum gold etc.

How many "outliers" do you need before it is no longer an "outlier"?

[AC9Breaker]

Unrelated, but using the mouse to click Ninjutsu hurt my soul

Ye, I be low born dirty clicker.

But yeah honestly I think its fantastic that we have so much versatility now in the game. Im pretty sure that Reaper will be nerfed come 6.1 tho. The class is ridiculously good. I do find it funny that healers are raging in this thread tho because their god complex is shattered. Also I still think Dark is fine, just needs to buff oblation.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

as someone already pointed out in this thread, or another thread i dont remember, when WHM was able to tank when doing a specific materia build It was fixed the next patch. im pretty sure 90% of the game wouldn't have had Tanking White Mages don't you think? Meanwhile when titan Egi was actually useful and could replace a Tank that stuff was hotfixed asap. Again, not something 90% of the playerbase would do. So tell me why is it okay that both healers dying in a Prog run is it not a immediate wipe. No SMN or RDM to pick them back up, just a severe lack of Raidwide unavoidable damage that needs to be healed and what little damage there is the tanks can heal themselves.

That's on top of People clearing dungeons, probably the most common and most casual content, after their healer died because tank sustain is too good (unless you're DRK). Please read the thread before replying, you're just making yourself look ignorant for no reason.

Your not clearing ex1 or ex2 with the amount of stacking raid dmg and bleeds without some sort extremely geared hyper competent team premade.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Ye, I be low born dirty clicker.

But yeah honestly I think its fantastic that we have so much versatility now in the game. Im pretty sure that Reaper will be nerfed come 6.1 tho. The class is ridiculously good. I do find it funny that healers are raging in this thread tho because their god complex is shattered. Also I still think Dark is fine, just needs to buff oblation.

It’s just raiders crying they can’t “optimize” healers to do more dps. Meanwhile people who just clear savage/extremes week 2+ and just want to clear/farm them like me are fine with the current state of healers. This is why I can’t stand raiders tbh they ruin games with complexity and optimization.

[ThorneDynasty]

How is overgearing explaining anything when it's current content..?

[Ixon]

It’s just raiders crying they can’t “optimize” healers to do more dps. Meanwhile people who just clear savage/extremes week 2+ and just want to clear/farm them like me are fine with the current state of healers. This is why I can’t stand raiders tbh they ruin games with complexity and optimization.

What? This thread is about how there isn't enough to heal in the current high end content, not that healers want to do more dps lol

[Claire_Pendragon]

So you're saying if i stack 4 dancers and 2 reapers i can cover the role of 1-2 healers? Nevermind it's killing your LB generation for more damage/kills and no bonus stats for even more damage.

Honest question.
Do you think the LB limitation and the -2% dmg would equate the extra dmg brought by 2 more DPS?

[RinaShinomiya]

Your not clearing ex1 or ex2 with the amount of stacking raid dmg and bleeds without some sort extremely geared hyper competent team premade.

EX1 only has 5 unavoidable raidwide Hits far away from each other. Doing mechanics alone doesn't make you hyper competent nor is being 5 ilvl above minimum ilvl extremely overgeared.
If you actually watched the videos you'd realize that the healerless runs actually fuck up a mechanic every now and then.

It’s just raiders crying they can’t “optimize” healers to do more dps. Meanwhile people who just clear savage/extremes week 2+ and just want to clear/farm them like me are fine with the current state of healers. This is why I can’t stand raiders tbh they ruin games with complexity and optimization.

What are you on about?
The fights are already super optimized to the point where everyone in the team gets as much DPS as they can. That's not the issue, the issue is that we have 20 healing related buttons and only use maybe 3~5 of them which doesn't make for a exciting healer gameplay. I don't even run Savage raids but thanks for projecting. You don't need to be a min-maxing raider to see the issues with the design of this Role.

[Jonathan_Clover]

It’s just raiders crying they can’t “optimize” healers to do more dps. Meanwhile people who just clear savage/extremes week 2+ and just want to clear/farm them like me are fine with the current state of healers. This is why I can’t stand raiders tbh they ruin games with complexity and optimization.

Ah yes, the mean ol' elitist raiders are responsible for the hardest fights available right now having so little unavoidable damage, and not the fight developers. Totally the raiders fault. :^)

[Doragan]

You guys need to realise they are making such "claims" solely to rile you up, and no other reason. I know, "but should we let claim go unchallenged?", but it ain't a claim. Just an excuse to make this thread toxic and make you mad.
Just act like they aren't there, and keep discussing. I assure you, they have been going at it for months, and they aren't the first one. I'm sure you can dig up the "Happy Healer in 5.0" thread to see that this kind of gaslighting/general behaviour has been here since ShB media tour, if not earlier. Engaging with it will only make it continue further and further. I know it's hard, but please don't pay them attention.

To get back on topic, I'm not too surprised. E4S at the time was done without healers as well, just SMN heals were enough. Barely anything happens in the 6.0 trials,so.. Yeah. I really wonder how Asphodelos Savage is gonna be though, based on that. I guess we'll have to see the rebalancing at 6.05 first, but yeah -- Tank healing is probably going to get hit, either nice,or badly.