Just remove healers.

[Silverbane]

I lost my appreciation when they removed the fun from the game. I liked the multitasking healers used to have. If the best I have to look forward to is idiots in glamours (something I could do anyways) there's nothing left for me here.

Do you think you'll be missed?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Oh, and 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3 is just so much more exciting, right?
What you seem oblivious to is that knowing the right DPS key to hit depends on the combat situation, and can change pretty quickly, even if you do spam the one you pick until the situation changes.

Combat situation changing? In such a scripted PvE encounter? Seriously?

Have you ever out-parsed good DPS on a trash pull?

A ‘good DPS’ that you ‘out-parsed’ in trash pulls are probably not that ‘good’ at all Sure Healers do pretty good dps in AoE situations, but a ‘good DPS’ out-parsed by their healer? Seriously (1)?

If so, where you bored by it?
[…]
So why don't you ask questions like the above? Are you afraid of the answers?

Majority of healers that you’ve replied in these threads can do way more than every ‘technical sounding’-situations that you’ve written, because it’s just that boring easy to achieve.

Do you enjoy it? Yes? More power to you. Glad you’re enjoying it, for real.

Now these folks does not have the same opinion as yours—they’re voicing out their thoughts & what possible ways to alleviate it without harming the lower denominators so that BOTH type of players can have fun. When you come over to these threads trying to argue questionably, proven objectively wrong, then try to take the higher ground via pedantries, expect a return of favor in kind in addition to the board's difficulties in taking your words seriously.

[QooEr]

why are yall still arguing in circles with a wall

[Semirhage]

You're not arguing, you're just making a personal attack.
And a BS one too: I don't subscribe to your Big Lie that Sages and all other healers have a "1-button DPS" kit.
But you have already proven you don't understand the Sage DPS kit, and I'll just let it go at that.

By the way, I saw one of you "1-button DPS" idiots in Duty Roulette yesterday, standing about 10 yalms away from the pack of trash mobs that surrounded the tank, using Dosis on them. That Sage, like you, didn't know how to run a Sage effectively. He could have been the top damage-dealer for that encounter, but no, he followed your advice instead.

Oh. I see we're doing that thing again where you dance back and forth between the healer single-target and AOE "rotation", and pretend like I don't know what I'm talking about. Because whenever I say bosses are Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare, you go "HURRR, but you cast HOLY on trash packs not GLARE, you dummy fool idiot, see you don't know how healers play!"

Every single other person in this thread knows exactly what I'm talking about when I say Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare. Healer damage rotations are -braindead simple-. They have no nuance. They don't require thought at all. Swap the AOE spell out for the single target one if you have the correct number of targets.

I don't need a single level on Sage to see it spams one button over and over and over and over again just like White Mage. "One button DPS" isn't a "Big Lie" just because you state it is. Your AOE rotation is one button, with an occasional once or twice per minute ability. Your single target rotation is one button, with an occasional once or twice per minute ability. It IS a one-button rotation. Unless you're hallucinating extra buttons? I wouldn't put that past you.

why are yall still arguing in circles with a wall

Some days the dumb opinions of Sylphies are the only activity the healer subforum gets. *shrug*. They're so unbelievably wrong about how healers play, what constitutes fun, and everything in between that I'd rather not see a newbie come in here and read their nonsense unopposed.

[Silver-Strider]

People have admitted, recently in these forums, to being afraid of my "opinions."
An accomplishment you'll never achieve.

Bye!

Being proud of being a psychopath isn't a hard accomplishment to achieve. Anyone can hold a gun towards a crowd of people and earn more fear than anything you can achieve.

[Doragan]

You guys need to realise they are making such "claims" solely to rile you up, and no other reason. I know, "but should we let claim go unchallenged?", but it ain't a claim. Just an excuse to make this thread toxic and make you mad.
Just act like they aren't there, and keep discussing. I assure you, they have been going at it for months, and they aren't the first one. I'm sure you can dig up the "Happy Healer in 5.0" thread to see that this kind of gaslighting/general behaviour has been here since ShB media tour, if not earlier. Engaging with it will only make it continue further and further. I know it's hard, but please don't pay them attention.

Tap tap.

I disagree, though. Just give us more stuff to do during downtime, and it should be good enough. It's really that simple.

[QooEr]

Some days the dumb opinions of Sylphies are the only activity the healer subforum gets. *shrug*. They're so unbelievably wrong about how healers play, what constitutes fun, and everything in between that I'd rather not see a newbie come in here and read their nonsense unopposed.

i mean i guess i understand the sentiment since theres nothing to discuss anymore cuz healers have been in the near-exact same state for at least 3 years , but this specific sylphie has gone for way too long saying the same stuff. (tbh i dont even think a newbie would take that nonsense to heart if they look at their tooltips for more than 2 minutes but hey)

[Silverbane]

A ‘good DPS’ that you ‘out-parsed’ in trash pulls are probably not that ‘good’ at all Sure Healers do pretty good dps in AoE situations, but a ‘good DPS’ out-parsed by their healer? Seriously (1)?

Do the numbers, smart boy. Dyskrasia is really lethal on large groups. You can do numbers, right? Or do you just take The Balance and Icy Veins on blind faith?

Or better yet, TRY IT. It works for Art of War, too.

Honestly, you people lack both imagination and math skills, don't you?

[Silverbane]

I don't need a single level on Sage to see it spams one button over and over and over and over again just like White Mage.

There you go: an expert on Sage who has never even played the class.
This, friends, is the quality of the proponents of "healing needs an overhaul."
They don't let their complete ignorance and lack of experience hinder them.

[NemuNemu14]

Oh. I see we're doing that thing again where you dance back and forth between the healer single-target and AOE "rotation", and pretend like I don't know what I'm talking about. Because whenever I say bosses are Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare, you go "HURRR, but you cast HOLY on trash packs not GLARE, you dummy fool idiot, see you don't know how healers play!"

Every single other person in this thread knows exactly what I'm talking about when I say Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare. Healer damage rotations are -braindead simple-. They have no nuance. They don't require thought at all. Swap the AOE spell out for the single target one if you have the correct number of targets.

I don't need a single level on Sage to see it spams one button over and over and over and over again just like White Mage. "One button DPS" isn't a "Big Lie" just because you state it is. Your AOE rotation is one button, with an occasional once or twice per minute ability. Your single target rotation is one button, with an occasional once or twice per minute ability. It IS a one-button rotation. Unless you're hallucinating extra buttons? I wouldn't put that past you.



Some days the dumb opinions of Sylphies are the only activity the healer subforum gets. *shrug*. They're so unbelievably wrong about how healers play, what constitutes fun, and everything in between that I'd rather not see a newbie come in here and read their nonsense unopposed.

I have all healers at 90, and I can confirm that sage does spam one button over and over again, only with the edition of that one skill in between gcds. Other than that, just like every other healer. Sage is also played identical to scholar, gotta love the originality!