Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
I don't think DPS shouldnt use it. after all its an OGCD that you can weave in when you get a chance or even go into a pull with it active. So you lose absolutely zero by having it on. It's the notion that a DPS should pull first and apply those debuffs to the all the mobs before the tank takes them as the optimal route that I dispute. We need to see whether tanks actually wait for the DPS to double pull and apply that debuff to mobs before the tank tries to take aggro for mitigation purposes or if they just go in with it on the off chance it may apply to any mobs. Given how noone waits for anything in a speed run I think its more a case of the latter than the former.

You wouldn't happen to have a video so we can see would you? I'm actually open to learning, the videos I linked don't show this behavior.
https://streamable.com/dsxtwd

There's no need to stall or wait, because jobs like NIN+BLM can outpace a tank by nature on many pulls. Arms mitigation is only one of numerous factors that makes DPS pulling optimal in certain segments in speeds.

The core point is that the tank pulling is essentially just a social contrivance in this game, born of people applying knowledge from other games and older times. People just shouldn't be getting frustrated enough to grief their party, including uninvolved members, over something that in gameplay terms just doesn't matter too much.