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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    SO BECOUSE people wont to force you and being rude you need to take a 30 min bad form DF? sounds logical to you?
    Majority rules friendo. If the majority of the party wants to go slow then the speedrunner should bow out. You aren't being forced to do anything as you are free to leave if a party isn't meeting your desires, so yes very logical to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Majority rules friendo. If the majority of the party wants to go slow then the speedrunner should bow out. You aren't being forced to do anything as you are free to leave if a party isn't meeting your desires, so yes very logical to me.
    but you are not FREE to leave. if there be no 30 min time out then it be free, but as king as it there its any thing but free. that why people acting rude in df. as they fell they got the power to force others and treat them as trash.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    but you are not FREE to leave. if there be no 30 min time out then it be free, but as king as it there its any thing but free. that why people acting rude in df. as they fell they got the power to force others and treat them as trash.
    A player being tank has no right to hold a run hostage if they throw a tantrum either. So communicate and sort it out without letting your ego get bruised or leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's obviously not something that everyone simply starts doing, but learning to pull fast as a tank pretty much eliminates the need for dps or healers to pull anything. The sooner one learns this, the better.
    Completely true, learn by doing.
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    Last edited by SilverObi; 04-24-2022 at 01:32 AM.

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    It's obviously not something that everyone simply starts doing, but learning to pull fast as a tank pretty much eliminates the need for dps or healers to pull anything. The sooner one learns this, the better.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    A player being tank has no right to hold a run hostage if they throw a tantrum either. So communicate and sort it out without letting your ego get bruised or leave. .
    no one say they do. i all for talking . problem is most of the players don't even know there is a chat. what can you talk to people that cant even care to say hi at the start of a run to the party.
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    Last edited by SamsaraTrickstar; 04-24-2022 at 01:43 AM.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    no one say they do. i all for talking . problem s most of the players don't even know there is a chat. what can you talk to people that cant even care to say hi at the start of a run to the party.
    I won't agree with the statement that most players don't know there is a chat as it's a rather huge HUD element, though I do know a minority of players turn off the chat box. I can't speak as to how you interact with other players in dungeons but I will just say if the vast majority of your interactions result in this apparent frustration you have to acknowledge the comment element and reflect on it and think on how to improve it in the future.

    The one silver lining about Duty Support becoming a standard option is that now single-pull tanks will have a safe environment to better learn their kits and maybe one day feel confident to do the playstyle considered standard by the playerbase.
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    It's boring to heal small packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    I won't agree with the statement that most players don't know there is a chat as it's a rather huge HUD element, though I do know a minority of players turn off the chat box. I can't speak as to how you interact with other players in dungeons but I will just say if the vast majority of your interactions result in this apparent frustration you have to acknowledge the comment element and reflect on it and think on how to improve it in the future.

    The one silver lining about Duty Support becoming a standard option is that now single-pull tanks will have a safe environment to better learn their kits and maybe one day feel confident to do the playstyle considered standard by the playerbase.
    what i mean by that is they never use it.so it looks as they don't know its there. all i want from people is to be nice say hi at the start and we all run on. but when the first thing you get is move it slow ass. it some what not nice. may even say rude. i improve it by really go solo. i at last getting a party of 2 more before i go. save me and some Randoms lots of BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by lbr View Post
    It's boring to heal small packs.
    so you ask not force. dont pull for the tank and do not pull the tank just use the chat. ask for it and see what's up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    what i mean by that is they never use it.so it looks as they don't know its there. all i want from people is to be nice say hi at the start and we all run on. but when the first thing you get is move it slow ass. it some what not nice. may even say rude. i improve it by really go solo. i at last getting a party of 2 more before i go. save me and some Randoms lots of BS.


    so you ask not force. dont pull for the tank and do not pull the tank just use the chat. ask for it and see what's up.
    Nah, I'll just pull a convenient pack in the vicinity. It's no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    so you ask not force. dont pull for the tank and do not pull the tank just use the chat. ask for it and see what's up.
    I do. If the tank is slow, I will say in the chat and tell everyone to blame me if the tank dies due to pulling too much. That does not mean I will not pull nearby packs to help speed things up.
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