Another housing delay, imagine that.

[Dzian]

Demolition was introduced in 2015.. which is 3 years (156weeks) in which are unaccounted for. .. so.. maybe just don't say that since it's untrue? You did some math gymnastics just to justify your comment when you probably just should have said "it feels like".

Nevertheless just because it's happened a lot doesn't speak to its effectiveness or implementation (it is the reason I have a house, so maybe I'm biased), maybe the past 4 years have just been exceptionally ridiculous for widespread disasters that affect people? ... why yes.. yes they have.

December 17th 2013 - Housing was introduced
November 27th 2015. - Demo system introduced..
Thats 105 weeks of Demolition free housing.

November 27th 2015 - Demo Sytem Introduced
September 15th 2017 - First Suspension I found
Thats 94 Weeks the System was working before the first suspension.

so if we add those numbers together thats:-

195 weeks that there has been a demolition system operating. vs
215 weeks that there has been no demollition of player houses.

Also given the current situation in Ukraine along with a major earthquake in japan. there's a very good chance the system will stay suspended well into the summer.. so that could easily be getting towards 235 - 240 weeks.

So yeah the game has spent more time with no demolition system than it has with a demolition system. so again should just be scrapped entirely.

don't get me wrong i'm all for reclaiming houses of long term inactive players to give newer folks a chance but there have been dozens of suggestions for better and fairer systems than this bs demolition system we have. where new players basically have zero chance of finding a house because its down more than its up...

[Shibi]

December 17th 2013 - Housing was introduced
November 27th 2015. - Demo system introduced..
Thats 105 weeks of Demolition free housing.

November 27th 2015 - Demo Sytem Introduced
September 15th 2017 - First Suspension I found
Thats 94 Weeks the System was working before the first suspension.

so if we add those numbers together thats:-

195 weeks that there has been a demolition system operating. vs
215 weeks that there has been no demollition of player houses.

That logic you use (and the math behind it) makes no sense. Sorry.

Housing has been there for 431 weeks in total.
Demo system has been in place for 329 weeks.

In those 329 weeks there have been
33 weeks for the Tokai Tsunami
21 weeks for the USA Hurricane
36 weeks for COVID 19
14 weeks for Endwalker, & Today's world situation

104 weeks as I make it, where demo existed and was was disabled.

So, 102 weeks of demo not existing, 225 weeks of demo existing and running, and 104 weeks of demo existing but stopped. (~1/3)

Or, 104 weeks of demo stopped in 431 weeks of housing. (~1/4)

[Dzian]

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You've only counted 4 suspensions, there's been more.. As i said in my earlier post all the dates i got came from the loadstone important notices and various patch notes. so they're easy to find and verify.

I will conceed however that upon a second look one of the dates i listed did only affect some data centres not all.. but still..
My earlier post did say it wasnt the most thorough research I basically just skimmed the information for dates. and even said my totals were roughly x number of weeks..

[Shibi]

You've only counted 4 suspensions, there's been more

Do you know which they are?

[LianaThorne]

You've only counted 4 suspensions, there's been more.. As i said in my earlier post all the dates i got came from the loadstone important notices and various patch notes. so they're easy to find and verify.

I will conceed however that upon a second look one of the dates i listed did only affect some data centres not all.. but still..
My earlier post did say it wasnt the most thorough research I basically just skimmed the information for dates. and even said my totals were roughly x number of weeks..

Instead of this, you should probably just accept that there are bigger things going on in the world and those people affected by said issues deserve the same respect you'd probably ask for if it also affected you personally.

There's literally new housing coming soon, just be patient and try to score one then. If you don't get one, there's always apartments to hold you over in the meantime. I personally turned mine into 2 floors and made my own mini-house.

[Nekokaori]

tbh, I'm sorry as mean as this sounds and yes i know it sounds mean and maybe a little evil but idc tbh.. they knew russia was going to act eventally the signs have been there for years so honestly they could just surrender not like they stand a chance anyways.. but if a game wants to get political they should be prepare for both sides of the coin or the edge of the coin which honestly is Its not our proplem and shouldn't effect things virtual or others its not our proplem...


if im going to be honest its annoying to the point that if i had a way and the info id just sell it to Russia and benefit x2 lol

[Padudu]

tbh, I'm sorry as mean as this sounds and yes i know it sounds mean and maybe a little evil but idc tbh.. they knew russia was going to act eventally the signs have been there for years so honestly they could just surrender not like they stand a chance anyways.. but if a game wants to get political they should be prepare for both sides of the coin or the edge of the coin which honestly is Its not our proplem and shouldn't effect things virtual or others its not our proplem...


if im going to be honest its annoying to the point that if i had a way and the info id just sell it to Russia and benefit x2 lol

lmao tfw turning off auto demolition is SE getting political

also it doesn't sound "a little mean", just sounds like you're nihilistic who's been doomscrolling /pol/ for too long. imagine regarding a war as "annoying" when you're not even at the brunt of it bruh

[Nekokaori]

lmao tfw turning off auto demolition is SE getting political

also it doesn't sound "a little mean", just sounds like you're nihilistic who's been doomscrolling /pol/ for too long. imagine regarding a war as "annoying" when you're not even at the brunt of it bruh

its human nature to have war, and it rlly is your basically disabling something using an excuse they wouldnt even care about (for honestly 1 player a streamer) ... the truth is war is human nature people die so big deal... its not even anything new its been a 3 year plus thing not the worlds fault they were stupid and didn't just give up pre war lol with their lack of strength they knew they wouldn't stand a chance

[Anvaire]

First, I want to say that I think what Russia is doing is an abomination. It's disgusting, both what is being done to the Ukrainian people, and the restarting of the cold war. This post is in no way intended to diminish anyone's tragic circumstances, in Ukraine or anywhere else.

That being said, it's time to accept the fact that there will ALWAYS be tragedy somewhere in the world, and it's not a legitimate excuse to ruin a huge aspect of your game, nor to ruin a large number of paying subscribers' experiences.

We need housing, and you have refused for a decade to invest in the necessary hardware required to give housing to everyone who wants it and can afford it. It's old. Your excuses are old. There would be no need for a lottery system if you had just provided enough housing to begin with. The fact that you are implementing a new system means you aren't going to invest in enough server space to give everyone housing even after the new neighborhood FINALLY drops, and including the island.

Why is a feature you advertise actually an unfair competition? That's what PVP is for.

I was one of those people who lost their job to Covid. I had to go back to school for a new degree. It was 3 semesters before I could play again, and I lost a personal house and a guild house while I was gone. I come back and there's zero houses for sale. Ever. I got NONE of my stuff back. But it's OK to make the whole suffer for just a few now? You didn't stop demolition for people like me. And this is a game, not real life.

Since you refuse to spend the money on hardware, the least you could do is start demolitions back up. But the real problem your refusal to provide enough housing in the first place. There should ALWAYS be a lot of every size for sale. Always. If there isn't, you aren't doing your job, and you're ripping us off.

The design behind housing is that its an achievement and not meant for everyone. The Aspect of house design is available to everyone through Apartments and through FC Rooms. The only aspect that is limited is Gardening.

In terms of stoping Auto Demolition whenever a World Crisis happens I can only support it. Its empathy for those who wont be worrying about a pixel house, but rather their lives. I am assuming the philosophy behind it is that even if they are losing things in their lives, they dont have to worry that the in game stuff will be taken too. Its a small gesture that i imagine will have impact. Not that I think any Ukrainians are currently sitting thinking about ffXIV at all. They have more important things to worry about right now. But at some point, when they come to rebuild their lives, that this war has shattered, it will be a nice thing to find they still have the house they put time and money into. This is why i can support the demolition suspension and likely always will.

The issue around having enough housing is simply explained, they already do, but the housing isnt in the location or the size that people want. An Apartment offers all of the same benefits with the exception of two things, multiple floors i.e design space and Gardening. But even then Gardening can be experienced via fc's and tenanting. This is why i honestly dont think its an issue in the grand scheme of things. If anything the fundamental issue is that the housing approach was ill thought out. The design was about creating neighbourhoods, but this only really happens where there are fc's with a large active membership and a penchant for socialising in and around the house. Majority people who have a house, use it as an afterthought. Because of this districts which were envisioned to be large player communities are dead for the most part.

They could resolve the issue with automatic ward expansion, but all that would happen is the medium and Large houses would be bought up and then the smalls would empty as people migrated to availble mediums and large houses in new wards Effectively resulting in ghost wards of very few houses.

Personally the mistake has and always will be that medium and Large houses are available as personal housing. I think they should always have been limited to FC's only. This wont elleviate the issue with housing initially, but it would mean that natural hubs would form around large and medium housing as they would be utilised by fcs. They then could add a different "instanced" housing system for player housing. I really hope island Sanctuary is something like this and maybe operates in the same way that Genshin Impact's Serenity Tea Pot housing works.

[VirusOnline]

The design behind housing is that its an achievement and not meant for everyone. The Aspect of house design is available to everyone through Apartments and through FC Rooms. The only aspect that is limited is Gardening.

I suspect that when housing was initially implemented, population was not a problem. SE probably thought that like with XI, XIV would be niche to the Asia and SEA regions.
So, housing was engineered via code to be wards that could simply be added and subtracted.

I suspect the only reason they didn't make apartments with a patio for gardening and the same size as a small house is because then people with small houses would feel cheated.

Having a house is not an achievement. A small house costs 3.75M which these days is nothing to majority of players.
It's not an achievement to be RNG picked for a house.
It's not an achievement to click for 10 hours straight on a placard (which I did, and in the end I felt nothing but emptiness and sadness for the others who were clicking with me)

But at some point, when they come to rebuild their lives, that this war has shattered, it will be a nice thing to find they still have the house they put time and money into. This is why i can support the demolition suspension and likely always will.

I just want to point out that it can take years, if not several years, to recover from natural disasters.
Things like Hurricane Katrina took the city years to rebuild and its residents even longer.
What is taking place is not a natural disaster.
And FFXIV only stops demolition for several months at most.