Another housing delay, imagine that.

[HyoMinPark]

Technically you are wrong because if he is paying for the service he is actually entitled to that service.

Paying a subscription allows access to the game itself. It doesn’t automatically entitle a person to a virtual house.

I’m a firm believer that the housing system could be—and should be—much better than it is. However, OP comes off as incredibly entitled and selfish: wanting a virtual house because he thinks he deserves it over someone else. That’s the overall tone I get from his post. And it’s just disingenuous in general. And a bit disgusting to preface it with false empathy towards Ukraine and Ukrainians. His opening statement is negated by literally everything that follows after it.



Your sub pays for access to the servers. That’s all that’s guaranteed to you when you pay it.

[Aaran]

As much as I hate to say it, OP does make one valid point. Yes, the post is very tone deaf. But at the same time, there IS always a crisis happening somewhere in the world now. SE needs to either stop suspending demolition altogether or just stop demolition altogether. There is always something happening somewhere in the world that will keep people from logging in. It's just the way the world is now.

[VirusOnline]

Serious discussion point on the side of a devil's advocate.

That SE would suspend housing because of current events is a bit ... strange.
Whereas it may be out of support on SE's side, it also has a unintentional subversion, and an unintentional way of equating a major event to that of ... pixels in a game.

Were I in the position of being under duress - pixels in a game are not my priority and SE suspending housing does nothing to help my duress. My life is priority and a game in this moment means nothing to that. If SE really wanted to help - there are many other things they could do, housing being the least of any show of empathy.

[Belisaire]

Serious discussion point on the side of a devil's advocate.

That SE would suspend housing because of current events is a bit ... strange.
Whereas it may be out of support on SE's side, it also has a unintentional subversion, and an unintentional way of equating a major event to that of ... pixels in a game.

Were I in the position of being under duress - pixels in a game are not my priority and SE suspending housing does nothing to help my duress. My life is priority and a game in this moment means nothing to that. If SE really wanted to help - there are many other things they could do, housing being the least of any show of empathy.

While I think you are correct in terms of the overall and general priority, I imagine SE's calculation is that they are aware of how painfully difficult and awful it is to get a house in XIV, and once you do get that house, people often do put a lot of time into that. And yes, in the moment, you rightfully should be focused primarily on surviving, but everyone hopes to have a life and things to return to after going through all this struggle. Coming back and finding your house was yeeted away to someone else would be quite the bummer--possibly even quit worthy.

That being said, I think SE could definitely be more targeted with their demolition suspensions. If they really wanted to, they could probably figure out which of their players are in Ukraine and are being impacted by this, and pause the demolition timer for specific regions of players only.

[M1551NGN0]

Technically you are wrong because if he is paying for the service he is actually entitled to that service.

OP's entitled, selfish attitude in spite of Ukrainians actually does make him into a Karen.

[Xrystofer]

Paying a subscription allows access to the game itself. It doesn’t automatically entitle a person to a virtual house.

Not exactly. Having the chance to buy a house is part of the service and he is paying for that service. So, by the virtue of not having inactive houses demolished, he is being denied the chance to purchase a house for the most part. Don't confuse that with being entitled to a house. Whatever he gets to have a house or not is another story.

Your sub pays for access to the servers. That’s all that’s guaranteed to you when you pay it.

Are you aware of consumers' rights?

Furthermore, none of that matters because have and should have are not the same thing.

Anyway, I wish you good luck on your virtue signaling crusade to dismiss every other issue that is not as important because we should be focusing on the number one issue instead.

Whataboutism whataboutism

[HyoMinPark]

Not exactly. Having the chance to buy a house is part of the service and he is paying for that service. So, by the virtue of not having inactive houses demolished, he is being denied the chance to purchase a house for the most part. Don't confuse that with being entitled to a house. Whatever he gets to have a house or not is another story.

You are still incorrect—OP isn’t being denied anything.

OP still has a free shot for any houses that are willingly demolished by players that opt to get rid of them—be it because they are quitting or transferring servers. He isn’t being denied access to any aspect of game content, if you really stop to think about it. The option is still there: should a free plot come about, OP can participate in its purchase. If he was being denied access to it, he wouldn’t be able to participate in the purchasing system.

However, housing is not guaranteed as part of the subscription price. All the subscription guarantees is access to the game and its servers. It does not mean that OP will automatically get a house, nor that he deserves it over anyone else.

It does not provide guarantees to each and every aspect in terms of content outside of the person paying can access the game as a gateway to the content. Subs don’t guarantee housing, just like they don’t guarantee Savage clears, specific mounts, or specific items. I think you need to learn what is guaranteed as part of paying your $14.99/month, and what is not guaranteed. There is nuance there.

Are you aware of consumers' rights?

Furthermore, none of that matters because have and should have are not the same thing.

Anyway, I wish you good luck on your virtue signaling crusade to dismiss every other issue that is not as important because we should be focusing on the number one issue instead.

Whataboutism whataboutism

Yeah, I don’t see any virtue signaling or whataboutisms in my response to you. I do see a whole lot of meaningless buzzword throwing abouts in yours, though. Typical of those who don’t actually have a solid argument.

[Atelier-Bagur]

As much as I hate to say it, OP does make one valid point. Yes, the post is very tone deaf. But at the same time, there IS always a crisis happening somewhere in the world now. SE needs to either stop suspending demolition altogether or just stop demolition altogether. There is always something happening somewhere in the world that will keep people from logging in. It's just the way the world is now.

Again the demolition thing is there to prevent complete perma-housing spots on a very limited system for new people to get a chance on gaining a plot if somebody hasnt logged for a good amount of days. Yes the limited plot system itself sucks a lot but its either that or no new players will ever get a house for their own.

[Raoabolic]

Just suspend NA/EU housing. Why drag the JP servers into it?

[kaynide]

Are you aware of consumers' rights?

I don’t see anything in there that says you are entitled to be able to have or get anything, nor that there is some requirement about supply and demand.

When you agree to the ToS, you agree that you are paying for access to play the game; you have no rights to your character or items in the games. You are strictly paying for the ability to access the game.

YOU ACQUIRE NO OWNERSHIP OR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN ANY CHARACTER OR OTHER IN-GAME VIRTUAL GOOD, AND ARE ONLY LICENSED TO USE SUCH CHARACTERS AND ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENTS. YOU AGREE THAT YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT AND ANY VIRTUAL GOODS AND CHARACTERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MONETARY VALUE. SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.