Summoner rework is a huge dissapointment

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I see people say that sometimes, where utility is everything that is not dam related but here is the thing do we know for sure the dev balance around that definition of utility? Shoot I personally don't think they use rdps since that is technically a form of measurement that site that should not be named used. I might be wrong but didn't rdps start there in the first place? Just because you believe utility is not related to dam buffs doesn't mean the devs do, if so why is nin always near the bottom of the melee? What utility other than TA does it bring to a party that makes it have the lowest rdps among the melee. The point is if the utility doesn't include buffs like TA, AC, SL, Embolden, and ect then why is nin being taxed so hard compared to other melees who have more healing/mitigation utility like mnk and rpr?

Also on the smn healing utility show me an example everlasting flight or rekindle come useful in current fights that don't just lead to overhealing because they land during times the healing isn't necessarily? SMN so call utility is too depends on its rotation. You as the smn have no say in when or where to use it. Do you know what I can do as a rdm right now? Ask my healers when they want magick barrier, I can't do that for either everlasting flight or rekindle. So I wouldn't call smn's utility good XD

You're nit-picking the use of the word utility. My point is having a raid buff shouldn't result in a tax on your total damage output because it is part of your damage output - it will definitely lower personal dps though. I don't play Ninja nor do I know why SE balances the way they do. Going by fflogs it looks like Ninja was top in ShB and even in EW it's not far from the top at all, what's the problem? All the melee look very close right now, Ninja isn't being taxed hard.

As for SMN's healing: https://www.fflogs.com/reports/f3PbV...aling&source=7 is one example - 26% overhealing on Everlasting Flight, not bad at all for a hot. Just pick a boss select Summoner and sort by healing for more examples. I haven't been raiding with SMN so I can't speak on boss dmg timings with Phoenix but it's definitely not as useless as people make it out to be.

Magick Barrier doesn't actually heal, its reliant on healers to make use of its utility while SMN is not - Magick Barrier should actually buff SMN's healing.

I think that smn heals are really situational: most of the time they're useless overheal, and single target heal it's not exactly free since you lose an attack.

SMN's heals are absolutely free, you don't choose between an attack or a heal you do both and Phoenix's potencies were buffed so it's overall stronger than Bahamut despite having 1 less attack.