Summoner rework is a huge dissapointment

[MrJPtheAssassin]

With all due respect, they are more likely to answer questions about whether it is lore-appropriate to eat the sandwiches made for us by the Crystal Exarch as opposed to answering any questions of actual substance. That was one moment I'll never forget back from one of the Shadowbringers Q&As. Direct questions about pressing issues are one thing they will almost certainly pass over in favor of less controversial topics, much to the frustration of pretty much everyone, myself included.

Again assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. You may be right and they won't talk about the things we want to hear but that shouldn't stop us talking about it in threads like this and others. If we do then things will never change and we continue down this line of the devs not talking about the state of job heath. No matter what we need to continue having conversations so we can tell the devs that this is the stuff we want to hear. Making assumptions like you are will never help push this message forward. As I said if they don't talk about job balance doing the LL that's fine at least I know these conversations will continue on this forum in hopes one day they change their minds on sharing job balance info with us.

[IruruCece]

all this on top of the fact that ff14 summoner has only 5 summons, 3-4 of which functionally do the same thing.
there is no CHOICE, like there is with other final fantasy games summoners.

It's really, really ironic that aveyond has spent weeks trying to push their nerdcred about Final Fantasy "summoner" when they keep ignoring this very basic thing about this concept from the series in general. Coincidentally, many "summoners" throughout the series didn't just rely on their summons, they also often had access to a wide range of spells, far wider than three-shades-of-ruin. And if they didn't naturally have these abilities, players could choose to expand on their ability sets themselves.

Again assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. You may be right and they won't talk about the things we want to hear but that shouldn't stop us talking about it in threads like this and others.

Their entire gimmick has been to pretend that they are the REPRESENTATIVE of all people who love ruin mage and they have stated openly that they will be there to oppose any criticism of the job no matter where it surfaces.

If they're the representative, that doesn't say very good things about the people they claim to speak for.