Audio popping issue

[minopoki]

Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.

Maybe that's it, it's throttling more after the overclock, that's why things seem worse.
I don't think there's much I can do... I could try new coolers, it would probably make it better, but not sure it would be enough...
I use a two fan Corsair water cooling, reapplied thermal paste about 1.5 year ago, could do it again, but I don't think temperatures have changed much from then. My guess is my coolers are too old (almost 7 years now, and I heard watercoolers wear out faster), but I'm not sure I would want to invest money in new expensive cooling hardware just for the sake of FFXIV. I'd rather save it to when I upgrade my whole system in the future...

Besides of anything, game still played fine before 6.0, other games are still fine, so it's still up to SE to fix it, it really seems I can't do much more on my side. Thanks for the suggestions anyway.

EDIT: Overclocking might still have good results to other people though. It's really looks an interesting suggestion for those who are secure about messing with BIOS options.

[XenophineEX]

Maybe that's it, it's throttling more after the overclock, that's why things seem worse.
I don't think there's much I can do... I could try new coolers, it would probably make it better, but not sure it would be enough...
I use a two fan Corsair water cooling, reapplied thermal paste about 1.5 year ago, could do it again, but I don't think temperatures have changed much from then. My guess is my coolers are too old (almost 7 years now, and I heard watercoolers wear out faster), but I'm not sure I would want to invest money in new expensive cooling hardware just for the sake of FFXIV. I'd rather save it to when I upgrade my whole system in the future...

Besides of anything, game still played fine before 6.0, other games are still fine, so it's still up to SE to fix it, it really seems I can't do much more on my side. Thanks for the suggestions anyway.

I posted mine, it is cheap, 30 bucks, just uses fans on a radiator system. If the fans burn out you can just buy new ones. The radiator itself will never go bad.

I've never used a water cooling system but it seems kind of redundant to cycle hot water through a system.... Goal is to get the heat away from the processor as fast as it makes it... saturating it with high temperature flow... well the laws of thermo dynamics take over. Eventually the water system gets as hot as the heat coming off the processor. Then you achieve... what you have going.

In my case my pc has open access to an abundance of air all cooler than the source, so no matter how long those fans blow, unless it gets to 90 degrees in here thermodynamics takes over, and the pc will always have a open channel to distribute heat. During winter months, I rarely need to run the heat if my pc is on. (this is the same reason server rooms are kept really cold)

Another way to think about it, if you had your stove burner turned on (electric) and created a half inch gap between it and the frying pan, and I used air flow blowing through that and you used water, which do you think would result in the pan getting hotter?

[minopoki]

I posted mine, it is cheap, 30 bucks, just uses fans on a radiator system. If the fans burn out you can just buy new ones. The radiator itself will never go bad.

I couldn't find that model being sold in my country, but this other one seems similar, and it's dual fan: https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog...212-led-turbo/
It's not exactly cheap around here, but I'll give it a thought, especially for the future, thanks for the suggestion.

[XenophineEX]

I couldn't find that model being sold in my country, but this other one seems similar, and it's dual fan: https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog...212-led-turbo/
It's not exactly cheap around here, but I'll give it a thought, especially for the future, thanks for the suggestion.

ouu a fancy one, I never did go for looks on it, just functionality haha. But that does look to fit your needs. You will want to get 2 4 pin fans, and make sure you have a connector to connect the second to the first so they are synced. Unless your board has 2 4 pin fan connectors (mine didn't). The 4th pin is for regulating fan speed automatically.

You may also want to measure where your ram slots are in relation to the processor, it is a very big heat sync.

Yeah looking at the stock fans they are 1600 rpm, you want 2k - 2.4k rpm. cooler master also sells those. But the stock fans make for good backups/ rear chassis fans.

You want those fans blowing as hard as you can get them to to cool that processor off.

The installation for the fans is easy btw, just attach the slip on brackets via fan screws to the 4 corners of the fan plug it in and slip it over the radiator.

[Faafetai]

I have not had the audio stuttering bug yet, but I am still in post shadowbringers and fear it will become an issue in the future. I decided to post on this thread due to another issue that is directly related to this one, which is all of the sound does not sound as it use to. Every sound is washed out and lowered, I am assuming this is due to making preparations for those wishing to purchase simulated spatial audio. I will never purchase this 'feature' offered, and would like for all of my sounds to be returned to normal. It is most notable in the music sounding far away in every dungeon I am assuming to make it feel as though the audio is coming from far away from your characters sounds that are being produced. It is horrible if you do not wear headphones, and I will not be made to purchase something to fix these issues either.(that is if they fix it only for those who purchase their product and not for everyone else who is playing the game) I will just end my subscription.

Some of the sound changes are okay but some sound as if you have the treble booster on max setting. I can't fix this as I could on a radio or something through audacity when mixing music. I think the term is tinny, like a tin can. Many sounds just sound way to far away despite them being made by your own character with a camera right behind when just going through a dungeon. I am unsure if I am explaining this well, but it is a issue that is common when listening to remastered music from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Some just sound way off, and it makes it hard to hear certain instruments. The biggest most notable I could give would be listen to The Twinning music on youtube, than go into the Twinning and you will hear how off it sounds at least to me. I tend to be a bit sensitive to some of the changes in sound. It does however sound normal in say Ishgard when just relaxing and sitting down listening to the music.

[XenophineEX]

I have not had the audio stuttering bug yet, but I am still in post shadowbringers and fear it will become an issue in the future. I decided to post on this thread due to another issue that is directly related to this one, which is all of the sound does not sound as it use to. Every sound is washed out and lowered, I am assuming this is due to making preparations for those wishing to purchase simulated spatial audio. I will never purchase this 'feature' offered, and would like for all of my sounds to be returned to normal. It is most notable in the music sounding far away in every dungeon I am assuming to make it feel as though the audio is coming from far away from your characters sounds that are being produced. It is horrible if you do not wear headphones, and I will not be made to purchase something to fix these issues either.(that is if they fix it only for those who purchase their product and not for everyone else who is playing the game) I will just end my subscription.

Some of the sound changes are okay but some sound as if you have the treble booster on max setting. I can't fix this as I could on a radio or something through audacity when mixing music. I think the term is tinny, like a tin can. Many sounds just sound way to far away despite them being made by your own character with a camera right behind when just going through a dungeon. I am unsure if I am explaining this well, but it is a issue that is common when listening to remastered music from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Some just sound way off, and it makes it hard to hear certain instruments. The biggest most notable I could give would be listen to The Twinning music on youtube, than go into the Twinning and you will hear how off it sounds at least to me. I tend to be a bit sensitive to some of the changes in sound. It does however sound normal in say Ishgard when just relaxing and sitting down listening to the music.

Yep they messed up the entire audio system to sell new features on "audio immersion" kind of ironic... they messed up all the audio trying to make it sound better. They tried to make it sound so good you had to pay for it but even those that have bought it are reporting the same issues... it is sad really.

Main fix for you in particular is moving positional audio from the camera to 100% on your character. Everything past that requires steps we have been talking about in length here.

[XenophineEX]

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

EDIT:
So, additionally to Coll 'n Quiet, I also disabled an AMD Turbo CPU (or something like that) option in the BIOS, and now, when overclocked to 4.1GHz, my CPUs don't stop at 3.6GHz anymore, they just switch between 1.4GHz and 4.1GHz.
It really seems that, when they are at 4.1GHz the stuttering doesn't occur, although, I can't be sure if it fixes 100%.
The problem is that, most of the time, me CPUs stay at 1.4GHz. I have even set Windows power options so that CPU minimum speed is 100%, but it still stays at 1.4GHz most of the time.
Although I fear for my CPU temperature, I would at least try to test how it would go if I could keep it at 4.1GHz for long time intervals, but I really don't know what to do...

Nope, keep turbo on, turn off cool and quiet, cool and quiet will throttle to reduce "noise". Turbo will boost to your maximum set over clock settings when they exceed system manufactured specs. Neither one of those options give you control of your fan speed which you really need to set to 95% to test any of this. Turbo only turns on when the processors hits max, so if you are monitering you may never see it get that high, that is because nothing has required it too run that high or running that high would shut your system off as a fail safe because of over heating.

Did you try msi command center?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/970-...ver&Win10%2064

the one from msi is this
Title
Command Center
Version
1.0.1.27
Release Date
2021-09-17
File Size
23.43 MB

It says MSI but it works for both chips, intel and amd regardless of msi board... which is why they make it difficult to download.

For more specifics on msi command center...
https://www.msi.com/support/technica...DT_MSI_Utility

[TaleraRistain]

I have not had the audio stuttering bug yet, but I am still in post shadowbringers and fear it will become an issue in the future.

If you aren't getting it now, you probably won't get it. It's not limited to Endwalker zones. It's happening across the game.

[Providence_]

As a general tip to help folks cope with this until it's fixed - through trial and error I've found that, generally speaking, activating the immerse audio trial seems to fix issues outdoors and in content with lots of players, but causes much worse clipping in indoor areas (especially tiny instances like rising stones, red ruby office etc). I've been pretty much toggling it on and off to get through the game without issues - albeit occasionally getting caught out when an msq cutscene takes me indoors/outdoors somewhere without an opportunity to change settings.

my very uneducated guess here is that the spatial audio calculates sound bouncing off walls and stuff, which gets intensive in an enclosed space.

For the record I'm using an FX-9370 OC'd to 4.7Ghz.

[GutsyBoozetank]

What happens when the free trial runs out, such as mine did yesterday. I don't feel it's right that I have to pay just to have the audio be slightly better. I will say that the audio stuttering is even worse with the trial expired. They should make the spatial immersion free until they can fix their issue.