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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophineEX View Post
    Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.
    Back to this subject, I've finally been able to lower my temperatures.
    It turns out the problem wasn't my coolers being too old, but, and I am ashamed to say it, but because my radiator was FILTHY
    After CLEANING it (and only superficially, for I haven't removed it to clean it), my temperature average dropped about 20ºC
    The image below shows how it got after playing the game for about 10-20 minutes, much much better than my previous temperature numbers:


    So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
    When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
    (Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

    Before cleaning the radiator, it would throttle at 75ºC, but now at 58ºC, which is weird, considering the specifications say my CPU max temperature is 70.5ºC.

    Lowering the game graphical settings to the lowest, and even FPS to 30, makes it throttle less, but it still happens.

    I still have some things to try the next few days:
    - a better cleaning of radiator, by removing it and taking out all of the dust that's still there;
    - one of my 3 internal fans (not the CPU ones) is not moving, so replacing it might help;
    - trying other suggestions from this thread to relieve stress.

    But if someone has any suggestions on how to avoid throttling, I would appreciate it.
    Not sure if GPU being around 70ºC makes any difference. I heard this value was ok for GPUs...
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  2. #982
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nommers View Post
    I might be totally off-base on this, but this seems to line up with what RinKaenbyou was saying here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5794011
    Umm, i don't know. The poster meant "buffers". But "buffers" is an abstract concept and can mean many things. I guess the poster means soundbuffers in the game application. If so then it has not really something to do with that what i meant. I meant very low level things on CPU register level. If you choose a not fitting data type then the CPU has to emulate it. And emulations are usually very slow.


    Quote Originally Posted by minopoki View Post
    So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
    When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
    (Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)
    The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.


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  3. #983
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.
    Yes, but from the information I found on Google, one of them, although measured by the motherboard, is the temperature of the CPU Socket -- not from the CPU itself, but from the part of the motherboard where the CPU is connected.
    When i go to the BIOS, after resetting just my PC, I can see there too, two measures of temperature, one of them described as CPU Temperature, whose value is about the same that was shown in the Temperature #1 value just before I reset the PC, rather than the value shown under AMD FX-8370E.


    Anyway, combining the two suggestions below along with the overclock, seems to have helped reducing CPU throttle and consequently, audio stuttering too. I have to leave right now, when I'm back tonight, I'll check these things better, thanks people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    1. Download DXVK, the dxvk-1.9.2.tar.gz from https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v1.9.2

    2. Open it with 7-zip or another tool which can open tar.gz-files.

    3. Navigate into the x64-folder.

    4. Copy the files: d3d11.dll and dxgi.dll into the FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game directory of your FF14 installation

    5. Restart the client


    Quote Originally Posted by XenophineEX View Post
    If you have an amd processor the game is not using all your cores, and is bottlenecking itself. Easy fix is too overclock your cpu till the official fix comes through. Luckily for AMD even if something is only using 2 cores, if you over clock enough you can get as much throughput as using all of them. To test this, try setting affinity to 2 cores in the game.
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    Last edited by minopoki; 01-07-2022 at 11:59 PM.

  4. #984
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    I have found that when the stuttering and lag are at its worst, if I hit the windows key, the game will still be up when the start menu pops up. I can still see the game, but it's kinda of in the background. Letting it sit like this for a few seconds fixes the issue 80% of the time.
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  5. #985
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    Quote Originally Posted by Au-ro View Post
    I have found that when the stuttering and lag are at its worst, if I hit the windows key, the game will still be up when the start menu pops up. I can still see the game, but it's kinda of in the background. Letting it sit like this for a few seconds fixes the issue 80% of the time.
    How long does it take for the stuttering to appear again after that?
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    My rig is a newly built 12900KF with 3090 and SN850 PCI-E 4.0 SSD. 95% time my sound is fine but sometimes I got 1-2 sec stutters in town when a lot of players on the same screen. I noticed even my overall CPU usage is constantly below 20%, one thread spike to over 80% sometimes and the audio stutter may occur when that happens.

    I guess the new sound engine does some complex calculation for positioning audio and it is a single thread design, that may explain why older CPUs have more often stutters if the sound engine heavily/fully load a thread/core.

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    Last edited by Kenneth34250; 01-08-2022 at 04:07 AM.

  7. #987
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    Greetings,

    Thanks again to everyone who submitted detailed information regarding the ongoing sound-related issue. Rest assured, the bug reports that were moved to the Duplicate Bug section have been also passed down and have been helpful in our investigation.

    While it has taken some time to narrow down the conditions of the issue, we were able to reproduce it on our end.

    We discovered an anomaly in the calculation process within FFXIV's game sound driver where the number of digits is not being adjusted correctly. Due to this, some CPUs with certain characteristics are unable to keep up with the calculation processes and have a high possibility of encountering the issue.

    As mentioned previously, we noticed this primarily occurs on older CPU models that are around 10 years old, but have also confirmed cases on some of the latest CPU models.

    We are continuing to investigate the matter and are working on a resolution to ensure that CPUs with these characteristics will be able to handle these processes correctly. Our current plans are to conduct pattern tests and release an additional fix in the next patch.

    We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we work towards resolving this issue.
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    Tony "Zhexos" Caraway - Community Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Our current plans are to conduct pattern tests and release an additional fix in the next patch.
    Thank you for addressing the issue.

    When you say next patch, are we talking about a hotfix, an emergency patch (6.06), or 6.1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Our current plans are to conduct pattern tests and release an additional fix in the next patch.
    thank god!
    I also hope its a hotfix patch and not 6.1 that is ~2 month away.
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