Summoner Needs to be buffed

[Risvertasashi]

How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

[Atmaweapon510]

Looking at FFlogs, this buff should put SMN comfortably above the average scores for ranged rDPS and tiny bit below RDM. It's fine.

Summoner just needs something to make its rotation more interesting now.

[Easayia]

like adding 1 dot to manage? lol

[Wyakin]

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

Doesn’t summoner cast like 7 times over a two
Minute period? Genuine question because a samurai has more casts than a summoner right now

[Shurrikhan]

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

A bit above, perhaps. But it already is ahead of every Ranged DPS until the 95th percentile and only faintly behind Bard thereafter. Actually, feel free to be noticeably above Machinist, if only for reasons of complexity. (This isn't Stormblood, after all.)

To me, the larger requisite change is to get SMN neck-and-neck with RDM and cut the gap between RDM and the Physical Ranged by about half. In that case, SMN should be looking at a 2 to 3% buff. This latest buff is probably very nearly that.

But, one small note: if time spent casting were of the key balancing factor here, then SMN should be below RDM.

[Halfgeeek]

SMN is more mobile than RDM, so they shouldn't get on par with RDM IMO, though with these changes I think they will get close.

BLM needs a buff out of the casters.

DNC desperately needs a buff.

[CKNovel]

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

Sure 3 casts per minutes is definitely going to be a handicap.
At that level, I can argue that APM is also part of difficulty.
And SMN APM is very low, on top of a complexity of putting square cube in square hole, triangle in triangle hole.

And that's without the utility of SMN.

[VorpalSpork]

It's not a complexity or mobility issue. As a caster, people will decide to take on based on dps and utility. RDM has more of both than summoner and BLM is way ahead on damage. SMN will be the last choice to take as a caster, even with these minor buffs.

[LotusBlack97]

SMN is more mobile than RDM, so they shouldn't get on par with RDM IMO, though with these changes I think they will get close.

SMN is more mobile, but RDM has more utility, so i think they should get on the same power level.

RDM has Vercure with high potency and can instant Verraise multiple times, while SMN has that joke called Physick and need to use swiftcast in it's rotation so it can't instant Raise most of the time.

[Navnav]

That SMN buff seemswhack, but still a buff though lol.
Should have really granted two stacks of the oGCD during bahamut and phoenix along with the potency buff to ifrit.