Summoner Needs to be buffed

[Halfgeeek]

"sizeable" I think the math puts it like ~40 potency over bahamut phase.
It's a start but I would hardly call it sizeable to essentially get something we should have never lost in the first place

How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

Bigger buffs that pleases some of you would only create another OP situation. -_-

[PotatoGirl]

How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

Bigger buffs that pleases some of you would only create another OP situation. -_-

We just want to be competitive with RDM which is far more desirable as it is currently.

[Risvertasashi]

How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

[Shurrikhan]

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

A bit above, perhaps. But it already is ahead of every Ranged DPS until the 95th percentile and only faintly behind Bard thereafter. Actually, feel free to be noticeably above Machinist, if only for reasons of complexity. (This isn't Stormblood, after all.)

To me, the larger requisite change is to get SMN neck-and-neck with RDM and cut the gap between RDM and the Physical Ranged by about half. In that case, SMN should be looking at a 2 to 3% buff. This latest buff is probably very nearly that.

But, one small note: if time spent casting were of the key balancing factor here, then SMN should be below RDM.

[CKNovel]

I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.

Sure 3 casts per minutes is definitely going to be a handicap.
At that level, I can argue that APM is also part of difficulty.
And SMN APM is very low, on top of a complexity of putting square cube in square hole, triangle in triangle hole.

And that's without the utility of SMN.