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  1. #131
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    RocciaSolida's Avatar
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    Roccia Solida
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 100
    I'll disregard any post mentioning "SMN's utility" by default.
    1. the heals from Phoenix are a honey trap, you can't manipulate or use them when you need/want to
    2. RDM has a better ressing potential in any case possible, deals more damage than SMN (yes, I know you can pad adds during the current extremes) and has a better heal that is also functional with its kit (free dualcast during downtime).

    That said, I expect and wish for some changes tomorrow when the patch drops
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    Last edited by RocciaSolida; 01-03-2022 at 09:26 PM.

  2. #132
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    i expect some potency increase, thats about it
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  3. #133
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    DES_VII's Avatar
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    Des Kentaro
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    i expect some potency increase, thats about it
    I'm really hoping for some. I hope they do.
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  4. #134
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    Rika007's Avatar
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drekor View Post
    From what I've seen I'd say phoenix needs major buffs to at least be on par with bahamut phase(or bahamut needs a nerf I guess), because it feels super bad to have to use phoenix. Also I generally don't think summoner DPS should get much of a buff. It's mobility and utility should leave it down with the ranged physical.
    Well seeing as all 3 ranged DPS need to be buffed solidly (Dancer and MCH especially) as well that would mean Summoner needs to be buffed pretty well too.

    The 'mobility advantage' that leads to the 'ranged tax' is a meme at this point. Black Mage and Red Mage are both mobile as hell now. Melee's have been given so many QoL upkeeps in the form of reduced positionals, ranged attacks not breaking combos, dash/disengages, and in some cases like Reaper and Ninja, GCD ranged attacks that are actually stronger then their normal GCD's. And so far there has been no indication that the dev team has changed battle design that will actually force Melee downtime that makes ranged DPS get an actual advantage out of their mobility. If anything the constant need for close party stacking for most mechanics on the boss is forcing ranged players closer to the boss and having to deal with the same mechanics the melees do just as often.
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  5. #135
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    i expect some potency increase, thats about it
    ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ SUMMON POTENCY INCREASES ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ
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  6. #136
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    DES_VII's Avatar
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    Des Kentaro
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ SUMMON POTENCY INCREASES ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ
    Yes pls!
    ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ SUMMON POTENCY INCREASES ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ
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  7. #137
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    Coletergeist's Avatar
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    Cin Aamon
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 100
    +1 to wanting summoner potency buffs. I feel it's needed.
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  8. #138
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drekor View Post
    Also I generally don't think summoner DPS should get much of a buff. It's mobility and utility should leave it down with the ranged physical.
    Which means it'll be completely abandoned because unlike the physical range, Summoner has to compete with Black Mage and Red Mage which are both hilariously better in just about every capacity.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #139
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    Halfgeeek's Avatar
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    Aya Lovelace
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    Jenova
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Hopefully Ifrit's phase gets some more potency increase, along with Garuda's hard cast.
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  10. #140
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DES_VII View Post
    Yes pls!
    ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ SUMMON POTENCY INCREASES ༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ
    yeah, it so strange that how we summon THE ifrit, titan and garuda, only for them do deal more or less same damage as our puny ruin 4, i expect them to deal damage like bahamut just weaker
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