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    Halfgeeek's Avatar
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    Aya Lovelace
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Phoenix only buff :/

    I mean it almost gets it up to par with Bahamut, but that's it.
    Pretty sizeable buff though.

    Fountain of Fire -> 430 to 520.
    Brand of Purgatory -> 180 to 240.

    Phoenix phase hitting harder, means the overall DPS will increase a bit, which is all that's required to make SMN competitive on DPS.
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    Pretty sizeable buff though.

    Fountain of Fire -> 430 to 520.
    Brand of Purgatory -> 180 to 240.

    Phoenix phase hitting harder, means the overall DPS will increase a bit, which is all that's required to make SMN competitive on DPS.
    540 potency every 2 minutes.

    I'm not sure that's enough to get summoner in line with the rest. I'll take whatever buffs they want to give the job, this just feels really conservative.
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  3. 01-04-2022 04:06 PM
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    Fionna Dawnbreaker
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    Pretty sizeable buff though.

    Fountain of Fire -> 430 to 520.
    Brand of Purgatory -> 180 to 240.

    Phoenix phase hitting harder, means the overall DPS will increase a bit, which is all that's required to make SMN competitive on DPS.
    "sizeable" I think the math puts it like ~40 potency over bahamut phase.
    It's a start but I would hardly call it sizeable to essentially get something we should have never lost in the first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoGirl View Post
    "sizeable" I think the math puts it like ~40 potency over bahamut phase.
    It's a start but I would hardly call it sizeable to essentially get something we should have never lost in the first place
    How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

    Bigger buffs that pleases some of you would only create another OP situation. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?

    Bigger buffs that pleases some of you would only create another OP situation. -_-
    We just want to be competitive with RDM which is far more desirable as it is currently.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    How far behind do you think SMN is right now to where it should be?
    I think it's fair to say summoner should be above physical ranged that have zero cast times on anything and never have melee restrictions.
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    Des Kentaro
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Phoenix only buff :/

    I mean it almost gets it up to par with Bahamut, but that's it.
    That's not bad though, I mean I was expecting a few more potency buffs. But this isn't a bad thing.
    This should help a bit. And atleast they did something rather, and well look at what DNC got.
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    It's a good buff. I think Ifrit needs something similar. I feel like Ifrit is discount Fire 4 atm.

    The increased potency should help using Phoenix not seem so bad compared to Bahamut burst.
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    So I guess smn is staying down with phys ranged. Well, I guess it's better than nothing...
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