Smn Rework Suggestions After LL

[ssunny2008]

Most of us are, it's the same general people making the same complaints that Yoshi listened to in the past that made the class such a confused mess for this long that left most people opting to play red mage and black mage instead of it. I hope he will one day give them the job they want, thankfully SMN is no longer a confused missmatch of a class.

Such claims confuse me always. I see a lot of summoners running around in any content and given to ff.logs, SMN is as much played as RDM, NIN, DRG in the endgame meanwhile BLM is on the level of MNK, BRD, MCH which fall hard behind for obvious reasons. Only SAM overshines them all followed by DNC. So i really can´t underline "most of us are", "play XY instead."

I do not care at all about lore restrictions that can be written out easily.

You´ve claimed that SMN should be like the one from other FF titles, that they never had Dots etc... it´s called lore in some way. That you don´t care about it on the other hand makes it a bit invalid or?

PS: I hate Graha'Tia. Story-wise he should´ve died. It doesn´t make sense, that he´s still there. In a good story about war, characters needs to be sacrifized and yes, Haurchefant ftw!

[Vallhallix]

Such claims confuse me always. I see a lot of summoners running around in any content and given to ff.logs, SMN is as much played as RDM, NIN, DRG in the endgame meanwhile BLM is on the level of MNK, BRD, MCH which fall hard behind for obvious reasons. Only SAM overshines them all followed by DNC. So i really can´t underline "most of us are", "play XY instead.

I wish I could find them. I will often see Sam, Nin, Drg, Rdm and Blm if caster i'm usually the only SMN lmao. And if I hear anything about SMN it's usually very negative compared to RDM and BLM even the recent wowfugee streamers follow this mindset of it being a bad class in it's current state and opt for rdm/blm

[ssunny2008]

I wish I could find them. I will often see Sam, Nin, Drg, Rdm and Blm if caster i'm usually the only SMN lmao. And if I hear anything about SMN it's usually very negative compared to RDM and BLM even the recent wowfugee streamers follow this mindset of it being a bad class in it's current state and opt for rdm/blm

Seriously in stuff like daily-roulette you´ll find more leveling classes than anything else. Since SMN is for sure a popular starter class, they won´t show up there as often as a BLM for example. Ppl just level all classes to 80 and obviously don´t play their mains then. I did the same and will never touch the most classes again until the next level cap appears, but i´ll stay on MNK and Tanks for the endgame.
And in stuff like bozja / eureka... the most pick a healer or RDM for obvious reasons too.

(So if anything, the most classes you see in daily-roulette are either classes which can be unlocked late in the game or are more unpopular than everything else. ((Maybe)) And ppl have different opinions... of course those who dislike something, are the loudest. Those who like something, just play and enjoy it! )