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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    I also don't trust their "Healers split". They gave up the idea for M/O tanks but somehow felt It would work here ?
    the PF going to be either "we need the heal"=2 pure or "we need both"=1 of each ; and it's probably end with "moar dps"=2 barrierSGE
    Honestly you shouldn't trust the healer split.

    1) They attempted it with tanks and it has largely failed. They said in Shadowbringers early media they wanted dedicated Tank / Off Tank roles and that hasn't materialized at all.

    2) They're not doubling down on the shield / regen dichotomy. Scholars have the same amount of regens as they do shields. Whm's have a beefy shield that's getting an additional charge in Divine Benision. ASTs have the biggest possible shield pre-pull right now. The shown skills for Sage had 4 regens and 2 shields.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    1) They attempted it with tanks and it has largely failed. They said in Shadowbringers early media they wanted dedicated Tank / Off Tank roles and that hasn't materialized at all.
    Did they?
    Do you have a source for that?
    I thought I remembered them talking about how they wanted to abolish that dichotomy.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I thought I remembered them talking about how they wanted to abolish that dichotomy.
    Exactly, it was a bad idea so they abolished it. They saw it was better that players bring whatever combination of tanks they enjoy, instead of "sorry, we need a MT and your class is an OT". Now for some reason they're repeating that old mistake with healers. If the party has a Sage, they want SCH to be locked out. If the party has an AST, they want WHM to be locked out. And for what? They haven't even created a distinctive pure/shield playstyle. "Barrier" is just a regular pure healer with a handful of shields. It makes no sense.
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Exactly, it was a bad idea so they abolished it. They saw it was better that players bring whatever combination of tanks they enjoy, instead of "sorry, we need a MT and your class is an OT". Now for some reason they're repeating that old mistake with healers. If the party has a Sage, they want SCH to be locked out. If the party has an AST, they want WHM to be locked out. And for what? They haven't even created a distinctive pure/shield playstyle. "Barrier" is just a regular pure healer with a handful of shields. It makes no sense.
    "The WHM would be doing all the healing while the SCH would DPS away".

    I can't say for certain that not a single member of the dev team plays healers beyond the skill level of a nervous Cure spamming sprout. But I can say that the way Yoshida talks about how healers play in live letters is the same way Cure spammers on the forums/Reddit talk about oGCD-healers "not healing": because they don't understand how playing a healer actually works.
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