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  1. #21
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    Eclipse12187's Avatar
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    Ritzia Flameshadow
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Thank you, I fixed it. Though, the "water shield" is Divine Benison, it just looks slightly different. The slides confirmed they gave Divine Benison a charge system. Hence why the Trailer shows 2 shields being used within 30s.
    They actually use 2 divine benisons AND a water shield. Benison has a flowy sound and animation but it was used twice and near the end there’s a more watery shield used on the party member.
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  2. #22
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Yeah, it's what people thought would be Fluid Aura II (Flood?). Hopefully whatever that spell/ability is it replaces its spot as the lv 15 cnj quest reward, rather than leaving it empty. ARR whm is already barren enough as it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  3. #23
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    Boizinho's Avatar
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    Cora Eudestand
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Because people aren't playing it to have a complex rotation, they're playing it because they want to heal and support their group and *gasp* don't mind having downtime to their skills.

    So with that said *ahem* "Bye Felicia ♡"
    If you're actually playing a healer to heal in Final Fantasy XIV, you would be extremely dissatisfied too because healers BARELY heal in this game.

    You seem to share the asinine view that the developers have: people will use healing skills more if they have more healing skills, and they will use DPS skills less if they have fewer DPS skills. This could not be further from the truth. 60-80% of casts in any given encounter will be the exact same nuke spell. If you're not spending over half of your time DPSing, you are massively overhealing even in Savage.

    I always get the impression from opinions like yours, who are against healers having a more complex rotation at level 80 than they do at level FOUR, that you don't want to "play a healer to heal," you want to play a healer to be the laziest person in the party.
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  4. #24
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Boizinho View Post
    You seem to share the asinine view that the developers have: people will use healing skills more if they have more healing skills, and they will use DPS skills less if they have fewer DPS skills. This could not be further from the truth. 60-80% of casts in any given encounter will be the exact same nuke spell. If you're not spending over half of your time DPSing, you are massively overhealing even in Savage.
    Pretty much this.

    We have the exact same dps options from lvl 4 to lvl 80 as of now. A 30 second dot and a filler spell we cast in between 12 times.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #25
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    Boizinho's Avatar
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    Cora Eudestand
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Pretty much this.

    We have the exact same dps options from lvl 4 to lvl 80 as of now. A 30 second dot and a filler spell we cast in between 12 times.
    Ironically, WHM and AST start out with 18 second duration DoTs instead of 30 seconds. So a WHM's level 80 rotation is actually more shallow than their level 4 rotation. It goes from 11111112 to 1111111111112.
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  6. #26
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    NatePride's Avatar
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    Raina Cain
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 90
    that water shield effect is a move you already have in game Divine Benison
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  7. #27
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Bye to all the salty players. If you aren't having fun then it's to play a new game. If thousands more players enjoy the playstyle of 5.0 and you don't then it's just not your cup of tea. Doesn't mean the game or job/class is definitely bad.
    "Thousands more players" don't enjoy the playstyle of 5.0 (do you like broil spam ?), and yes the job/class is bad, there's ample evidence scattered all over.....
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  8. #28
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    And you're part of the problem. We pay for the game AND a monthly sub. People's concerns and problems shouldn't just be brushed off.

    If all scholar mains since launch NO Longer want to play the job then it's not us. It's 100% the Devs. You should be just as upset at the Devs are we are.
    They will continue doing this until the players call them out for it or until the game is dead.
    I pay for the game too. So does everyone else. Not everyone wants the same thing son. So with that being the case, the devs can't really cater to anyone, unless it coincides with something they feel is bad for the game. Sorry, but this is the truth you must accept and deal with.
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  9. #29
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Compared to the other versions of it. Imo it is bad. They took out a lot of the things that i fell in love with it. such as the dots, pet management and the lost of the haste , aoe esuna and the learning curves. yes i do know it was pain, however there where macros that solved some of the issues with it.

    Loved how i could use my fairy, placed it near the party , place a shield on it and spread that on the party. Wish selene had more due to eos had better heals, but she did have her uses. Great for during low level content with under geared tanks The thing i mad about about is that they did not put a lot of effort into it. Well it feels like it. really? we get a buff that increase movement speed and helps lowers damage we take? what stopping me from using swift cast succor and sprinting? Just a few button press.

    Unless this buff also give other effects, but i doubt that.

    I understand people like 5.0 i do to but it could have more, and i mean more. They could have kept bane and let it combo into art of war. that would solved that.

    For those said people bye Felica and salty players( i don't understand this logic, does that mean my concerns from a job I used love is not valid no more while your are?) . Please show us the numbers. back in hw they actually showed an official census and not once they showed us what was going on.

    all in all to say that i know they can do better with the sch changes and make feel better so that bother styles are relevant.

    And i only speaking for myself when i say this
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  10. #30
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    I pay for the game too. So does everyone else. Not everyone wants the same thing son. So with that being the case, the devs can't really cater to anyone, unless it coincides with something they feel is bad for the game. Sorry, but this is the truth you must accept and deal with.
    I'd believe you if MNK had not gotten a rework. Or SMN had not gotten its third rework.
    SCH got Energy Drain back after the Devs stupidly removed it.
    Clearly Devs can cater to people. We're not being loud enough.
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