Openly admitting to ignoring the players

[Deceptus]

I also don't trust their "Healers split". They gave up the idea for M/O tanks but somehow felt It would work here ?
the PF going to be either "we need the heal"=2 pure or "we need both"=1 of each ; and it's probably end with "moar dps"=2 barrierSGE

Honestly you shouldn't trust the healer split.

1) They attempted it with tanks and it has largely failed. They said in Shadowbringers early media they wanted dedicated Tank / Off Tank roles and that hasn't materialized at all.

2) They're not doubling down on the shield / regen dichotomy. Scholars have the same amount of regens as they do shields. Whm's have a beefy shield that's getting an additional charge in Divine Benision. ASTs have the biggest possible shield pre-pull right now. The shown skills for Sage had 4 regens and 2 shields.

[ItMe]

1) They attempted it with tanks and it has largely failed. They said in Shadowbringers early media they wanted dedicated Tank / Off Tank roles and that hasn't materialized at all.

Did they?
Do you have a source for that?
I thought I remembered them talking about how they wanted to abolish that dichotomy.

[GrimGale]

Phlegma III has 2 charges, aoe 510 potency with 50% fall off and is an oGCD.

Tooltips say "This action does not share recast time with other actions"

[Liam_Harper]

I thought I remembered them talking about how they wanted to abolish that dichotomy.

Exactly, it was a bad idea so they abolished it. They saw it was better that players bring whatever combination of tanks they enjoy, instead of "sorry, we need a MT and your class is an OT". Now for some reason they're repeating that old mistake with healers. If the party has a Sage, they want SCH to be locked out. If the party has an AST, they want WHM to be locked out. And for what? They haven't even created a distinctive pure/shield playstyle. "Barrier" is just a regular pure healer with a handful of shields. It makes no sense.

[Semirhage]

Exactly, it was a bad idea so they abolished it. They saw it was better that players bring whatever combination of tanks they enjoy, instead of "sorry, we need a MT and your class is an OT". Now for some reason they're repeating that old mistake with healers. If the party has a Sage, they want SCH to be locked out. If the party has an AST, they want WHM to be locked out. And for what? They haven't even created a distinctive pure/shield playstyle. "Barrier" is just a regular pure healer with a handful of shields. It makes no sense.

"The WHM would be doing all the healing while the SCH would DPS away".

I can't say for certain that not a single member of the dev team plays healers beyond the skill level of a nervous Cure spamming sprout. But I can say that the way Yoshida talks about how healers play in live letters is the same way Cure spammers on the forums/Reddit talk about oGCD-healers "not healing": because they don't understand how playing a healer actually works.

[Brandedblade]

Let's not forget WHM, you see how they skipped over its slide in no time? And all we got was this new auto turret heal so we can spend more time casting f cking glare with its 1.5 second recast time.

I'm out, ive uninstalled FF14, I was expecting to be disappointed but its still baffling that they managed to DOUBLE DOWN on 5.0's changes.

Buh bye my dude~

[Brandedblade]

"Being content with a basic rotation and downtime means you're lazy, more at 11."

You really think I care at this point? You know what I do when I got bored with healing? I either work on my non healer-classes or stop playing the game for a few months. and when I came back? I'm not bored anymore.

I can relate to wanting a drop more meat, and when I want that, I play something that has it instead and come back here when I'm full. I'm sorry that me daring to bring a more casual "I'm ok with this mentality" to a thread is so upsetting for you. I'd make a healer positivity thread but the salt always flows into it eventually so I'm going to pepper the salt with some positivity.

So by your standards, yes, I'm lazy, I've played games where healing was far far more boring then this. FFXIV at least lets me constantly do something as opposed to having to kneel and refund my mana and not do anything for long periods.

[Imora]

Compared to the other versions of it. Imo it is bad. They took out a lot of the things that i fell in love with it. such as the dots, pet management and the lost of the haste , aoe esuna and the learning curves. yes i do know it was pain, however there where macros that solved some of the issues with it.

Loved how i could use my fairy, placed it near the party , place a shield on it and spread that on the party. Wish selene had more due to eos had better heals, but she did have her uses. Great for during low level content with under geared tanks The thing i mad about about is that they did not put a lot of effort into it. Well it feels like it. really? we get a buff that increase movement speed and helps lowers damage we take? what stopping me from using swift cast succor and sprinting? Just a few button press.

Unless this buff also give other effects, but i doubt that.

I understand people like 5.0 i do to but it could have more, and i mean more. They could have kept bane and let it combo into art of war. that would solved that.

For those said people bye Felica and salty players( i don't understand this logic, does that mean my concerns from a job I used love is not valid no more while your are?) . Please show us the numbers. back in hw they actually showed an official census and not once they showed us what was going on.

all in all to say that i know they can do better with the sch changes and make feel better so that bother styles are relevant.

And i only speaking for myself when i say this

They most likely changed it BECAUSE you needed macros to make it work with the fairy.

[Axxion]

They most likely changed it BECAUSE you needed macros to make it work with the fairy.

For me it was only for adlo and embrace, Physic & embrace. For the other skills that management the fairy actions i used the pet hot bar switch they had. to help mange them. I never really macro alot of the skills for it.

[Imora]

For me it was only for adlo and embrace, Physic & embrace. For the other skills that management the fairy actions i used the pet hot bar switch they had. to help mange them. I never really macro alot of the skills for it.

I don't remember all my macros (other account) but i distinctly recall macroing a lot of "embrace the tank".

People say they want micromanaging but then use macros to auto target fair heals. I hated it.