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  1. #14751
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    Fukuro's Avatar
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by artypartytime View Post
    Lol but they made them fem.
    So idk who needs to hear this but open your eyes lol

    Don’t be salty. Meow
    they made them „fem“. in todays day and age every male that is slim/lithe is fem?
    lithe/athletic/young men = fem
    rough face, fridge men, tall= man! amiright? :,D
    they look handsome, you certainly could make them look kind of feminine, but there were options i saw in the trailer i wouldn‘t call „fem“. their walking animation, emotes also don‘t really look fem to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  2. #14752
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by artypartytime View Post
    You folks need to stop calling everything a fetish.
    I agree with you on not calling everything a fetish, but they are correct that the women are not dominant over men in Viera society. They are just very separate with different roles that keep them apart most of the time.

    Moon Keeper Miqo'te have a similar societal structure, at least traditionally, and that has nothing to do with dominant women – the men are simply not there to be dominated – and it doesn't require the women to be taller either.
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  3. #14753
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by artypartytime View Post
    You folks need to stop calling everything a fetish. Lol being fem isn’t a fetish. Having a woman be the leader of a society isn’t a fetish. Having a woman be the head of a household isn’t a fetish. A shorter man dating a taller woman isn’t a fetish. Men not being strong isn’t a fetish.


    You keep calling everything a fetish that isn’t to your liking.

    The only cringe thing is people like you constantly trying to make these things sexual.
    It is a fetish when people outright say they want them to be shorter so they’re tall mommy viera can crush them(yes, things i’ve seen all over the likes of twitter and reddit and even some forum posts.)You’re pushing the complex of “the females wearing the pants in the relationship.” So you’re the one that’s speaking on relationship concepts. With might i add, absolutely no merit or evidence to support that. In fact like i said, they have equal functions in society. One isn’t above or lower than the other and i’d rather we not spread misinformation that tries to make specific views seem right when in fact they aren’t. If they’re taller, it isn’t the end of the world. It isn’t against the lore. As of right now, there is very little suggesting that they’ll be shorter. Most of the tidbits we can go off of whether it be the in game lore
    or Yoshi P’s statements suggests they’ll either be same height, or slightly taller.I get annoyed with the folks who keep pushing this overtly feminine stereotype on a race of bunnymen.
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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 06-28-2021 at 03:11 AM.

  4. #14754
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    Juzjuzz's Avatar
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    J'uzo Okita
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    yeah but as i said before, male viera in my opinion just look like a typical final fantasy (anime) protagonist. their body reminds me of cloud‘s. he looks slim, but he still is a killer machine. just like lots and lots of other anime protagonists. just as larryzaur said in his reaction „THEY LOOK SO ANIME“, and i fully agree with that statement. XD
    the males just look young (18-22) in my book, which lorewise makes sense. they look lithe, athletic - a body type that would be fitting for a streaky forest. they always stay hidden after all. maybe they‘ll give an option for an older looking face and some beard options too, which would be neat.
    Yeah i agree it's very anime xDD It's just that the body look a little bit too smooth, that's what breaks it. Even if it's not huge, the muscles showing is sign of rigourous training. Right now it's barely visible.
    The way male viera was presented made them look too delicate for players who wanted a classic man (Cloud look young but not delicate). The delicate music, hair choices, outfit showing belly button, UwU emote, sexy dance ... everything was there to seduce players who wanted femboys or pretty boys x)

    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    That was pretty much what a lot of people said about AuRa males as well. They simply being Elezen with a skin condition and horns.
    Better body than elezen, face are somehow worse. xD can't have everything but some ppl like them the way they are. I'm more a fan of this : https://i.imgur.com/yl8E3Be.png For male viera i'm sure a lot of guys would have loved a similar look. Not mega bulky fanfic daddy, just a cool looking man. Even with less muscle it's fine (it's not the most important thing imo).
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    Last edited by Juzjuzz; 06-28-2021 at 03:25 AM.

  5. #14755
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    Nanchi's Avatar
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    Noah Zephyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    Better body than elezen, face are somehow worse. xD can't have everything but some ppl like them the way they are. I'm more a fan of this : https://i.imgur.com/yl8E3Be.png For male viera i'm sure a lot of guys would have loved a similar look. Not mega bulky fanfic daddy, just a cool looking man. Even with less muscle it's fine (it's not the most important thing imo).
    That looks like an Au'ra to me.

    If they're taller or shorter, they'll be fine. But I think it's really weird, from both sides, to bend and twist male!Viera to fit their own narrative. Why exactly does male Viera need an old face option when all the women only get the option of cutesy young looking face or- still young but not as cutesy.
    Yes male!Viera are effeminate and that is totally okay. They are not your little twink. They don't have to look like a highlander to be manly. They are fine if they turn out to be shorter or taller than female!Viera. I wish people would stop being so... weird about it.
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  6. #14756
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanchi View Post
    That looks like an Au'ra to me.

    If they're taller or shorter, they'll be fine. But I think it's really weird, from both sides, to bend and twist male!Viera to fit their own narrative. Why exactly does male Viera need an old face option when all the women only get the option of cutesy young looking face or- still young but not as cutesy.
    Yes male!Viera are effeminate and that is totally okay. They are not your little twink. They don't have to look like a highlander to be manly. They are fine if they turn out to be shorter or taller than female!Viera. I wish people would stop being so... weird about it.
    It's not 100% identical, if i were to choose between curent aura and the artwork, i choose the artwork that's all.

    I'm not a fan of shorter that's all i'm saying lol ofc it's fine if end up disliking it completly, i'll just stay on miqo or change to hyur. And no one asked for an old man version, just an adult. Btw there's a old woman face for elezen and hyur, no one uses it so it's not surprising to not see any old woman faces. Who said it shouldn't be an option ?

    I don't think they are effeminate, it's just delicate looking guys there's a difference imo. Why does it look like i think they are my little twink? I'm showing my preferences, it's not there to please everyone. You either like it too or you don't. For the height being smaller than females i already explained why it's not something i am exited about (same size as the race i already play and looks already very similar). It's fine if they do that, but imo it will look very repetitive. I'd rather have 1 tall bishonen and 1 small, than just 2 small. Is it a problem?

    What's weird is ppl who really want others to agree, be happy, or just say "it's okay " all the time.
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  7. #14757
    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Tomboy Outback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I agree with you on not calling everything a fetish, but they are correct that the women are not dominant over men in Viera society. They are just very separate with different roles that keep them apart most of the time.

    Moon Keeper Miqo'te have a similar societal structure, at least traditionally, and that has nothing to do with dominant women – the men are simply not there to be dominated – and it doesn't require the women to be taller either.
    Male Viera aren't even really part of the society
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  8. #14758
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    What's weird is ppl who really want others to agree, be happy, or just say "it's okay " all the time.
    The second part of my message wasn't even adressed at you.
    It's good to have discussions when they actually lead somewhere, its also okay to just state your opinion. Just like you, I can say some "demands" i've seen in this thread or on various other social media are very questionable at best.
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  9. #14759
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Well, if the women can be pretty and be warriors, there's no reason why the men can't be, too.

    They probably don't look quite so pretty when they've been out alone in the jungle for a few years, but you're not going to be meeting those ones.
    Are male viera even "pretty" though? To me they look kind of scuffed, frankly. Plus the lore is weird.
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  10. #14760
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Are male viera even "pretty" though? To me they look kind of scuffed, frankly. Plus the lore is weird.
    “Lore is weird.” So is all of the lore in this game. Pretty is subjective. I know people find female au ra’s pretty. I think they look like melted barbie dolls. Tastes are purely subjective.
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