Healers Angry when PLD Clemencies

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I'm the savage healer. But if I were to tank and my healers wouldn't heal me when necessary, I wouldn't cast clemency, I'd wipe and promptly kick them for not doing their job.

Well a good tank would use their invuln before biting it because if i'm with a good healer my invuln is a last resort. And proceed to salvage the problem with lack of healing by using their skills given to them. I rarely use my invuln unless it's to cheese mechanics which is using a skill outside of it's "intended use". An "Oh S%*$ button"

Clemency is great for those moments, and can offer a great recovery if a fight goes south. This is my secondary "Oh S%*$ button". Pop Hallowed Ground. Clemency myself as needed. Wait for the healer to collect themselves. Move on. I don't throw shade at them. I help them best I can by staying alive. That's a tanks job. Protect and stay alive. I suppose you have to have that tank mindset of wanting to keep others safe by being the punching bag. 1,600 comms later I'm still main tanking and I will never hold that over others heads. They thank me for getting hit by that truck and I thank my healers for keeping me alive. Even if the situation get's dicey. We all learn.

That's what being a good tank is. Not being upset for not getting heals, they adapt and move on.

A bad tank would just be upset they weren't getting any heals and blame others for their lack of trying.


Don't get me wrong I AGREE with you that clemency should not be used as it doesn't offer anything that a healer can't address. I'm just arguing that clemency shouldn't be over looked and taken off of hotbars. It's to damn powerful to ignore it's great utility. I think everyone also forgets that it heals your target AND yourself. It's like Nascent but I can spam it and heal myself AND my co tank. Talk about cheese when you get setup with x2 PLD they are NIGH un-killable when they are healing each other.

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Well a good tank would use their invuln before biting it because if i'm with a good healer my invuln is a last resort. And proceed to salvage the problem with lack of healing by using their skills given to them. I rarely use my invuln unless it's to cheese mechanics which is using a skill outside of it's "intended use". An "Oh S%*$ button"

Clemency is great for those moments, and can offer a great recovery if a fight goes south. This is my secondary "Oh S%*$ button". Pop Hallowed Ground. Clemency myself as needed. Wait for the healer to collect themselves. Move on. I don't throw shade at them. I help them best I can by staying alive. That's a tanks job. Protect and stay alive. I suppose you have to have that tank mindset of wanting to keep others safe by being the punching bag. 1,600 comms later I'm still main tanking and I will never hold that over others heads. They thank me for getting hit by that truck and I thank my healers for keeping me alive. Even if the situation get's dicey. We all learn.

That's what being a good tank is. Not being upset for not getting heals, they adapt and move on.

A bad tank would just be upset they weren't getting any heals and blame others for their lack of trying.


Don't get me wrong I AGREE with you that clemency should not be used as it doesn't offer anything that a healer can't address. I'm just arguing that clemency shouldn't be over looked and taken off of hotbars. It's to damn powerful to ignore it's great utility. I think everyone also forgets that it heals your target AND yourself. It's like Nascent but I can spam it and heal myself AND my co tank. Talk about cheese when you get setup with x2 PLD they are NIGH un-killable when they are healing each other.

We still talking about savage?
A good tank worries about aggro management, their rotation and how they use their CDs, I don't thank healers for healing me or tanks for holding aggro: it's literally their job, and likewise I really don't expect any gratitude for doing what I queued up to do.
Also good invuln usage is planned for TBs and such, not last resort, and if a healer will not heal when it's necessary in such content, I don't want to enable poor play in the harder content of the game where people need to know what they're doing, I'll just remove them asap.

I think clemency is a noob-trap similarly to rescue or cure I but they do have their very, very rare uses, not enough to defend them though imo