Healers Angry when PLD Clemencies

[Kes13a]

I main whm and personally, if the pld wants to use it, go ahead.

I am not going to lay awake at night worried about it. they can play how they want and generally, the way I heal, if the pld thinks they need to use it, its likely because things are sliding south and people are soaking in the deep end of an aoe. I am sure I dont speak for all healers, and definitely not the ones that get bent over this, but in my book, if its not a wipe, its a good run whether the pld used clemency or not.

[Bright-Flower]

I generally only use it when things have gone south. Like the healer(s) are dead etc. Or if I'm soloing, or doing something where I don't trust the healers like if I'm doing a bozja ce or something and the healers don't seem on the ball.

It's a useful backup for when things aren't going according to plan, or when soloing. But if you have healers who know what they're doing, you shouldn't need to hit it unless things take a turn for the worse.

[StormyFae]

I don't get angry over Clemencies, but GNb pissses me off I hate Haste hate healing for them, the second you heal them they pop their "Oh damn" button then go to 1hp.. God Remove gnb please

[Xia_Thas]

Trust in your healer and a lack of communication (in pugs atleast) is typically a common trait with this subject. You got a Tank who takes a big whap and freaks out not noticing his healer has planned for it and is winding up a fat heal. But then another instance you'll have a healer who for whatever reasons can't cover you in time and you end up dying.

As both a solo healer and solo tank you have to ensure you're doing your best to keep the group alive while also trusting the others are on the same page despite them being random people you've never played with. This also assumes everyone is playing decently. Look we can't explain why sometimes a PLD just wants to spam Clemency at 90% HP, The Healer one button dps' during a tank buster, or why the BLM and DRG are sharing a spot on the AoE, It happens.

I've had times where I thought about Clemency,didn't, died, and then times where I did it and wasted my healer's spells. The only time this isn't a real problem is in groups with friends over discord with plenty of communication and trust. That's the only environment you can confidently have rules of engagements for your Clemency. Pugs? Just do it when you think it's needed and if the healer get's triggered then that's them.

[Caurcas]

Clemency is just so beta compared to the chad Nascent.

[Raltar]

The only acceptable time to use it is when there is no healer present(for example, the healers are dead).

[Nethereal]

The only acceptable time to use it is when there is no healer present(for example, the healers are dead).

Or during down time and you won't be in your mana combo after you come out of down time.

[Liam_Harper]

Honestly, as healer I don't mind Clemency that much as long as they aren't spamming. It's not optimal and I'd prefer they didn't, but it's not the worst thing in the world and sometimes they're just trying to be useful even if it's misguided.

Other healers are a far bigger issue for me. Endless wasted overheal, 100% uptime HoT's and shields when there's no damage, no dps and terrible uptime are rampant in DF, far more so than paranoid Palas.

[NanaWiloh]

Honestly, as healer I don't mind Clemency that much as long as they aren't spamming. It's not optimal and I'd prefer they didn't, but it's not the worst thing in the world and sometimes they're just trying to be useful even if it's misguided.

Other healers are a far bigger issue for me. Endless wasted overheal, 100% uptime HoT's and shields when there's no damage, no dps and terrible uptime are rampant in DF, far more so than paranoid Palas.

Well DF has no coordination people are not assigned to handle any one thing. A Ant colony has more coordination then a party/raid in DF does.

[TaleraRistain]

As a WHM main, I probably won't even notice you casting it in normal content. I'll just see that your health is good and keep dpsing or turn my attention to someone who isn't doing good.

I don't see a reason to get bent out of shape if a PLD uses it. I figure if a PLD is using it at like 70%, some healer let them down in the past and they're gun shy. So I just try to show them I have their back.

In more hardcore content where every action counts, yeah, communicate with your party and work things out. Otherwise just use it if you think it will help. And if the healer gets snotty, that's on them.