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    Player Caitsithhh's Avatar
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    Junji Lucilfer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I don't deny that there is more casual players but I feel that you are mixing things there. The other 89% are not only casuals. Everyone makes mistakes, gets a damage down or dies, nobody is perfect.

    For Casuals, DPS don't matter much. As week passes, they'll get gear that'll grant them more DPS and HP, making the savages easier and accessible.
    If we still follow your logic, then a high skilled player that plays a ranged because they have an affitiny towards the job should be gutted because the player who dies, suffer from Damage down, wants to play Ice Mage or don't want to commit to learn the basics feels that it's easier to play ranged? You don't ask a runner to slowdown in a race because he has longer legs.

    And don't worry about ACT, I don't care much about my own DPS, I care about how well I do my job and what I can bring to the group.
    Without such tools, you can still feel the difference. I still remember about a friend who switched from DNC to DRG as we were on E3S enrage and it went in a go. I can still remember about the double ranged comp hitting enrage.
    Again, ranged are not asking for top DPS, just to be as usefull to the group as RDM/SMN for example.

    Man, I don't aim to sound like an elitist. I just want to be usefull and play the jobs I love without downsides. I don't want to get in a PF, hit the enrage and tell myself "If I was a Samurai main, we would've passed this fight".
    What's my purpose today? To bring a 1% stats to everyone else.

    Anyway, that's not the topic there.
    I mean just switching to a sam doesn’t mean you’ll do better lol. Playing what you know at top level and just being average is two different things completely. Really the fight design IN savage this expac and ultimate are two different animals. Phys ranged isn’t cut from anything. They’ve just been given the role that’s has no downside to moving or doing mechs. Saying that should do around the same ballpark as something that takes much more planning is kind of pepega. Also arguing top end numbers against one another is just as pepega. I ran double ranged phys in month one TEA and we cleared 20+ times with it.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitsithhh View Post
    I mean just switching to a sam doesn’t mean you’ll do better lol. Playing what you know at top level and just being average is two different things completely. Really the fight design IN savage this expac and ultimate are two different animals. Phys ranged isn’t cut from anything. They’ve just been given the role that’s has no downside to moving or doing mechs. Saying that should do around the same ballpark as something that takes much more planning is kind of pepega. Also arguing top end numbers against one another is just as pepega. I ran double ranged phys in month one TEA and we cleared 20+ times with it.
    You probably missed some episodes, here and there. Especially the part that outperforming a ranged on equal gear is far from difficult. Doing the minimal will be enough.
    Or that DPS isn't the only problem in ranged's current state.

    As you said, design in ultimate and savages are completely different, Ultimate DPS check isn't really hard, it's way heavier mechanic wise. Some claims that it's a joke.
    And since you want to pick TEA as an example, during many mechanics, the boss is not targetable at all. Being a ranged, melee or caster has little impact in there. And during the first two phase, the least you move the better.

    Comparing early savage DPS check and Ultimate DPS check, that's pepega.

    EDIT: Anyway, mind if we can go back to the initial discussion about positionnals?
    I'll gladly answer, but there's plenty of ranged subject to debate about it.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 01-26-2021 at 07:38 AM.