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    Player Pretzelcoatl's Avatar
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    Lief Wynn
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    1. oh dear, at best 50 cents a DAY to play something as much as you want. what a crime.
    2. established precedent in mmos, check out World of Warcraft sometime if you dont believe me.
    3. again, see 2 for precedent. prices of labour rise, so too development costs, yet the price is reasonable for what you receive. they bank on volume
    4. you get 2 for FREE. so no, the game doesnt make you pay for more, thats optional. inventory management on the otherhand, is usually up to the player.

    these are optional items. which part of OPTIONAL are you having trouble with? here, if it helps any:

    optional
    [ op-shuh-nl ]

    adjective
    left to one's choice; not required or mandatory: Formal dress is optional.
    leaving something to choice.
    1. I already paid and there is no marginal cost to the company to give me the outfit
    2. i dont play those games i hate their cash shop too, also i dont even think wow has any armor that i care about in their store, so that would make ff14 much worse
    3. I already paid and there is no marginal cost to the company to give me the outfit
    4. lots of game let you unlock content by doing quests and activities. Some extremely bad games instead have a website where you pay money. Which one is worse in your opinion?
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pretzelcoatl View Post
    1. I already paid and there is no marginal cost to the company to give me the outfit
    2. i dont play those games i hate their cash shop too, also i dont even think wow has any armor that i care about in their store, so that would make ff14 much worse
    3. I already paid and there is no marginal cost to the company to give me the outfit
    4. lots of game let you unlock content by doing quests and activities. Some extremely bad games instead have a website where you pay money. Which one is worse in your opinion?
    Lets do lists too!

    1) There is. How do you think those things come about? Out of thin air? It does cost them money and time to develop that, and they develop it for the explicit purpose to increase their revenue stream so they can do other things with that money. It is a literal investment. Take some sub fees to develop a glamour item that generates more money so they can apply it to more things (like the datacenters). I mean this is business 101. Take some of your profits and invest it into things to turn that money into a larger sum of money.
    2) Cash shops are a thing. Whether you appreciate it or not is up to you, but theyre not going anywhere. This is like theme park merchandising. You purchase the ticket, ride the rides, but that novelty t shirt isnt included in the ticket cost. You buy that on the side, if you want it. And wearing that novelty t shirt doesnt heighten how fun a ride is (unless youre weird). I mean you would have a point if you paid to enter the theme park and then had to pay to ride each ride or buy something so you could ride those rides. But that isnt the case.
    3) repeating your point doesnt make it any better
    4) This is the great joke of all this complaining. If you go into mog station, broadly most of what is available on it are items, mounts, and glamours that were already or are already available in game. If you had a sub, all those event items you would have already cause they literally gave it to you by doing a quest or something. A large chunk of whats on the mog station are these previous event items that you coulda had for a sub fee. Dyes are all available in game so its just a convenience, Jump Potions and the like are purely a decision for if you want to play the damn MSQ or not and a handful of mounts that are semi interesting vs the oodles of mounts you can literally get in game by beating savage and expert fights. I mean the omega mount is cooler than almost everything on the mog station, and most glamours that are available in game tend to be better than stuff you can buy on mog station.



    I honestly think that many of you who complain about mogstation dont actually sit down and think about what is offered to us. Im not saying that I want everythign to be on mogstation and that cash shops are plenty fine. But Im also not gonna humor the idea that SE is just gating all the good stuff behind their payment wall when the reality is the lions share of cool items are things you achieve in game, and outside the debate on jump potions, you everything on mog station is purely about cosmetics and nothing else.
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    Last edited by Melichoir; 09-19-2020 at 07:02 AM.