Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
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And I'm not going to bother repeating myself if this is the attitude I'm faced with.
Summary: AST old card effects cannot be balanced, period. That's objective.
The number of AST players, that's subjective. You can say "numbers are facts" but they only prove the subjective opinion of players. Objective reality isn't a democracy, don't use an argument of popularity to attempt to prove objectivity. Otherwise we'll be claiming Trump is objectively a good president...
More players may have enjoyed playing with a messier RNG system that held back healer balance and resulted in a stricter meta, but that doesn't mean it was a superior system.

Physical pain... give me a break. I play Ninja.
If current Ast can be balanced so too could the old, both are rng systems meaning you have to try to balance around the average that they give adjusting for if peaks get too high or valleys too low, so your wrong it is not Objectively impossible to balance the old card system, it is objectively harder to balance the old card system. That is the difference you are failing to crasp.

Did you read my last paragraph? I straight up say those facts show the subjective side of the playerbase but they are facts, and if shown those facts with no bias, you would think there was a problem with Ast yet it is not a number issue but something deeper.

Lastly I played nin (purple parse) throughout SB only reason I dropped was I went from EU servers to NA servers for raid group (while living in UK) yet I still did TEA prog on it got to half way through BJ+CC so a lot of reopeners when nin is at its busiest yet that never ever gave me the issue redoing optimal Ast's opener does in the same timeframe. I play exclusively on controller which is where most people who say they get pain from playing Ast comes from and it is unanimously Sleeve Draw and the targeting system that get cited for why.

High Apm is not an issue if spaced out well, nin is a good example of it, Ast is a good example when High Apm is not spaced out well.