General Community Resistant to Healer Damage?

[Videra]

And probably a small percentage of players that force randoms in roulette's to this idea is probably why healers get less and less. If you are playing with friends or a group that is created with a goal a certain detail to attention and skill is to be expected. If you random it if they can breathe and press 2 buttons that is a success.



When will this community learn that SE punishes the players that demand more from random groups. If people would keep their mouths shut maybe healers wouldn't be gutted. But you get a healer that isn't dpsing enough and then someone has to make the situation more miserable.



I would like to see more buffs and debuffs. Which would be a different type of dps increase. But we would end up the same situation where players can't keep their mouths shut when random group gets a scrub and SE nerfs it to one button.

I mean, it's fact: there is a right way and a wrong way to play your class in FFXIV. Me asking someone to press glare and stop spamming cure 2 on me at 90% HP is not me asking for much. I'm not going to apologize for expecting more, no matter the form of content. Also, you've got it twisted backwards a little - SE wasn't directly responding to the sane among us who want basic competence. They were directly responding to the people who want the 'Pure Healer' GARBAGE half AFK playstyle to be justified. Look at the sheer amount of times Yoshi has said 'Healer DPS doesn't matter', even if that's clearly a massive lie.


Cursed edit: I fully expect SE to do some monkey's paw stuff and basically roll-back the healer skill ceiling to HW and give us beloved abilities back again next expansion. The caveat? 'This action cannot be used in instances.' Cower before the honestly kind of plausible future of LIMITED HEALER DPS.

[Moonlite]

I mean, it's fact: there is a right way and a wrong way to play your class in FFXIV. Me asking someone to press glare and stop spamming cure 2 on me at 90% HP is not me asking for much. I'm not going to apologize for expecting more, no matter the form of content. Also, you've got it twisted backwards a little - SE wasn't directly responding to the sane among us who want basic competence. They were directly responding to the people who want the 'Pure Healer' GARBAGE half AFK playstyle to be justified. Look at the sheer amount of times Yoshi has said 'Healer DPS doesn't matter', even if that's clearly a massive lie.


Cursed edit: I fully expect SE to do some monkey's paw stuff and basically roll-back the healer skill ceiling to HW and give us beloved abilities back again next expansion. The caveat? 'This action cannot be used in instances.' Cower before the honestly kind of plausible future of LIMITED HEALER DPS.

Duty finder asking for over breathing might be too much some days. You can't even get players to not stand in the giant orange circles. It just feels SE reacts to defend the lowest tier of player and when players ask for people to just not spam cure that hurts their feelings. SE is in the defend peoples feeling business, even if that is wrong. If the players that have hurt feelings are the pure healers along with the scrubs SE is still siding with them.


I would be more then happy with dps skills added to open world. They could add cleric stance back certain skills only available with cleric stance and cleric stance not castable in instances. Would suck if you are trying to two man something though.

[BlitzAceRush]

I mean, it's fact: there is a right way and a wrong way to play your class in FFXIV. Me asking someone to press glare and stop spamming cure 2 on me at 90% HP is not me asking for much. I'm not going to apologize for expecting more, no matter the form of content. Also, you've got it twisted backwards a little - SE wasn't directly responding to the sane among us who want basic competence. They were directly responding to the people who want the 'Pure Healer' GARBAGE half AFK playstyle to be justified. Look at the sheer amount of times Yoshi has said 'Healer DPS doesn't matter', even if that's clearly a massive lie.


Cursed edit: I fully expect SE to do some monkey's paw stuff and basically roll-back the healer skill ceiling to HW and give us beloved abilities back again next expansion. The caveat? 'This action cannot be used in instances.' Cower before the honestly kind of plausible future of LIMITED HEALER DPS.

My friend wanted that for the last two years, so he'd be happy. As for me, if it would finally let me do the role I enjoy without someone screaming "Do more DPS" or "If I'm not bellow 20% Y U Heal me?!" then I could accept having my DPS skills not work in instances.

[Nedkel]

My friend wanted that for the last two years, so he'd be happy. As for me, if it would finally let me do the role I enjoy without someone screaming "Do more DPS" or "If I'm not bellow 20% Y U Heal me?!" then I could accept having my DPS skills not work in instances.

Are you watching youtube on the second screen when running a duty? Because thats virtually the only thing that comes to my mind when i see a healer wanting to heal only in this game.
Without dpsing you are standing idle for half of the time or overhealing 200%, why?

[Krotoan]

Are you watching youtube on the second screen when running a duty? Because thats virtually the only thing that comes to my mind when i see a healer wanting to heal only in this game.
Without dpsing you are standing idle for half of the time or overhealing 200%, why?

I've avoided healing for 9 years. Literally until this year I had not touched a healing class and so i never felt comfortable contributing to healing discussions beyond the expectations from a tank/DPS position. ..

I don't know where you guys are getting all this standing around time. People just EAT stuff all day. I can top people off and shield them all day and still BLAMBLAMBLAM from full to dead. Like every roulette.

I'm guessing this is different in hardcore raider/instance running.. but.. yeah. Your average instance in this game has plenty of healing to do. Maybe not standing around NEVER pushing your dot or your damage.. but.. still. LOTS.

[Billythepancake]

I've avoided healing for 9 years. Literally until this year I had not touched a healing class and so i never felt comfortable contributing to healing discussions beyond the expectations from a tank/DPS position. ..

I don't know where you guys are getting all this standing around time. People just EAT stuff all day. I can top people off and shield them all day and still BLAMBLAMBLAM from full to dead. Like every roulette.

I'm guessing this is different in hardcore raider/instance running.. but.. yeah. Your average instance in this game has plenty of healing to do. Maybe not standing around NEVER pushing your dot or your damage.. but.. still. LOTS.

I've been with window licker tanks and have had plenty of time to DPS still. It's just knowing what your skills are and not freaking out because the tank isn't at full.

[Krotoan]

I've been with window licker tanks and have had plenty of time to DPS still. It's just knowing what your skills are and not freaking out because the tank isn't at full.

Tanks are almost never my concern though. Most of the time their damage is predictable and consistent. I'm talking about the 2+ DPS who really.. shouldn't take anything but the mapwide AOE but are just eating absolute dirt for whatever reason.

[Vulcann]

I've avoided healing for 9 years. Literally until this year I had not touched a healing class and so i never felt comfortable contributing to healing discussions beyond the expectations from a tank/DPS position. ..

I don't know where you guys are getting all this standing around time. People just EAT stuff all day. I can top people off and shield them all day and still BLAMBLAMBLAM from full to dead. Like every roulette.

I'm guessing this is different in hardcore raider/instance running.. but.. yeah. Your average instance in this game has plenty of healing to do. Maybe not standing around NEVER pushing your dot or your damage.. but.. still. LOTS.

yeah exactly i am trying to figure out where this mythical group is that i "never having to heal and can sitting idle" for the majority of the fight is. because whenever I run my healer I feel like i have to always be at the top of my game on healing or else someone is gonna die.

[BlitzAceRush]

Are you watching youtube on the second screen when running a duty? Because thats virtually the only thing that comes to my mind when i see a healer wanting to heal only in this game.
Without dpsing you are standing idle for half of the time or overhealing 200%, why?

At no point did I say I didn't DPS, I do and I hate it, I said I want to be healing. I'd rather be kept busy with that than doing dmg. I hate the fact I'm supposed to spend more of my time Role playing as a DPS than as playing the role I signed up for, but thanks for for assuming.