Some views on DPS balance that everyone cares about

[Myon88]

I wouldn't use world first as anything more than "they figured it out first".

Summoner and Bard had world first in E4s, and Summoner / Bard were world first on TEA too. If the logic is "world first so they're fine", 5.0 Summoner was "Fine" too.

My group was there on day 2 and very nearly made top 10 (which I am pretty happy about, but that's another story). There was nothing to 'figure out', the whole fight had been seen for hours at that point by all the top groups and it was just bashing your head against the enrage. E4S's check was practically quaint in comparison, especially since uptime strats were much easier to figure out, on top of things like being able to caster/ranged lb the healer gaols. In contrast, there's nothing you can really cheese with Shiva, and all the uptime losses were coming from the phases that were very difficult to optimize on the fly in week 1.

By the weekend, even most of the 'midcore' groups on my server had Titan down. Those same groups didn't get their e8s clear till week 2, 3, or even 4 in some cases. It would not be the case if it was as simple as 'figuring it out' and then collecting your clear.

We've been handed a double caster meta on a silver platter for this entire expansion, and even now people are trying to undermine it for their own selfish gains, how truly disappointing.