Some views on DPS balance that everyone cares about

[Myon88]

No, this is not me being a 'twat', this is me holding people to account for their opinions. You do not have the experience to back that statement up, plain and simple. Try that phase in a full party of i480 people and tell me if dots are not a liability there, and in week 1 you had to let absolutely nothing through because we were all under the assumption that the buff was needed to clear.

This is a 100% verifiable fact, ask anyone that experienced it, watch any of the vods from that week and you will see it to be true.

[SaitoHikari]

No, this is not me being a 'twat', this is me holding people to account for their opinions. Try that phase in a full party of i480 people and tell me if dots are not a liability there, and in week 1 you had to let absolutely nothing through because we were all under the assumption that the buff was needed to clear.

This is a 100% verifiable fact, ask anyone that experienced it, watch any of the vods from that week and you will see it to be true.

Alright, so then let me ask you this: Why, exactly, would you consider week 1 balance to be more important than week X later? While it's true that class balance would matter more for week 1 clears as that's when fights are at their hardest, it's also worth noting that you're leaving out the part where this phase is the only part of the raid tier where Summoners are challenged - conveniently leaving out the other 95% of the raid tier where everybody else might not have as many answers to as Summoners do.

You accuse people of spinning agendas, but the rest of us are arguing over more general terms - while you apparently decided to keep hyper focusing on a small point in this game's history and on a very specific phase on the last fight of a raid tier.

(Also, snipping at someone for 'lack of experience' due to not having cleared E8S yet and admittedly likely never will - and will also likely have to give up raiding very soon due to being a health care worker in a world being ravaged by coronavirus - is really not a good look. Then again, I imagine a lot of us are going to be giving up on a lot of things very soon... Also, speaking as someone that has also cleared an ultimate, judging someone based on their progress and cleared fights isn't really a good barometer to be beating people's heads with too. I only see it as a representation of how much time one is willing or able to invest in this game, and I find it tacky as hell to be showing that off - especially in a forum argument about class balancing.)